rec.autos.simulators

by **tlgt** » Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:56:36

I have been looking into a flat screen LCD to get more desk space...
Ih ave a freind who can get me a good deal on an Acer 1912...19" LCD
monitor. But the reviews I saw were a little 'ify' on it.... Anybody
know anything about this monitor or have any recomendations? I want at
least a 17" and would really like a 19" but cost is a serious
consideration.

TIA

by **Plowbo** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:47:48

I have some freinds who have tried some of the better SAMSUNG monitors, they
said the're still a tiny bit of a trade-off... they are slower than
monitors for sure (I am NOT as picky as they are), and expensive! for the
faster response time ones... biggest hint I was given was contast ratios
(clear/clarity of picture) then response times = kind of equates to speed of
drawing the pixels your vid card pumps out... if you card pumps out 2
screens refreshes before the monitor can draw them, you going to feel like
there is jittery movement you know...

tlgtr enlightened us with:

by **Daru** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:58:27

I have owned a Dell 18" 1800FP for about 18 months now. 1280x1024
native resolution. Aside from web surfing, email, taxes, word
processing, it is exclusively for ***. When I got mine, LCD's were
really new to the market and concerns were over "Ghosting", due to the
"refresh rate" (it's not refresh rate on an LCD,it's response time
IIRC). I only play racing sims, GPL, NR2003, F1C, GTR, RBR and now NSR.
Never, not once, have I had an issue with my LCD and it's ability to
accurately display any of these titles. Knock on wood, no dead pixels
eithers.

Dell is selling their 20" LCD (1600x1200 res) for around $700 I think,
which is about $100 or so more than I paid for mine a year and a half
ago. I don't what your pricing requirements are, but I'll bet you can a
similar model to mine for $500. They offer lots of other brands as well
as the Dell (Look for the "Ultrasharp" tag) models. Dell always has
tons of sales and coupon offers, so you be able to "buy up" if you time
it right.

Hope this helped.

Darus

by **Jan Verschuere** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:27:05

I've been testing the screens that pass through our office (not aimed at
*** at all) with racing sims and have never really had any issues with
any, other than a lack of contrast on a really cheap Philips 15" model.
However, those with responstimes of 110ms or more really ghost when one
scrolls webpages or other files with a lot of text in them across the
screen.

Jan.
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by **Jan Verschuere** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:42:26

110ms?? -where'd that come from? -try 38ms and up, think 45ms was the
slowest one we had here.

Jan./bad night, ok? :-/
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by **Milo Johnso** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:43:39

Just got a 19" Sceptre monitor for $404 including shipping and it is awsome!
It's the model called Gamer and has .12ms speed.

MILO

by **Andi Col** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:45:44

Racing sims don't seem so piccy, FPS's are ruined by slow response times.
IMO 16ms response time is crucial and 12ms for an FPS. I'm using a BenQ
FP937S and it's fabulous.

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Andi.

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by **David G Fishe** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:33:43

I bought this
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries...
from Best Buy recently and couldn't be happier. It's on sale now for $500
with a $50.00 rebate.

16ms response time. No ghosting. Everything looks beautiful.

--
David G Fisher

by **Steve Smit** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:12:19

Samsung 915N (19-in., 8-12ms response time), here:

http://www.cnet.com/4520-10602_1-5618782.html

here:

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1403-x-x-x

and here:

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=...

I'm getting one ASAP.

by **DJRJ** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:29:51

Slickdeals.net just had a Dell 19" for 370.00

by **Norman Blac** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:27:18

Also note that the Dell 2001FP has a 16ms response time. About as fast as it
gets for LCDs. 16ms = 60hz. Most LCDs are 25ms = 40Hz. Note that LCDs do not
have the flicker issue of CRTs so higher refresh rates like 75hz do not
really mean too much. Don't worry about contrast rations speced by
manufactures. All are playing games with specs and no LCD comes anywhere
close in real life to the ratio in the specs. Without running an objective
test there is no way to know if one brand is stretching the ration a little
and another stretching it a lot.

In the interest of full disclosure. I have the 2001FP.

Norman

by **Trinit** » Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:05:05

Nope. You can get as fast as 8ms now.

by **Norman Blac** » Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:56:29

Hence my use of the phrase "about as fast".

>>Also note that the Dell 2001FP has a 16ms response time. About as fast as
>>it
>>gets for LCDs.

> Nope. You can get as fast as 8ms now.

by **Larr** » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:19:01

If you have the right codes, you can get the Dell 2001FP shipped for about
$505 right now :)

-Larry

> Also note that the Dell 2001FP has a 16ms response time. About as fast as
> it gets for LCDs. 16ms = 60hz. Most LCDs are 25ms = 40Hz. Note that LCDs
> do not have the flicker issue of CRTs so higher refresh rates like 75hz do
> not really mean too much. Don't worry about contrast rations speced by
> manufactures. All are playing games with specs and no LCD comes anywhere
> close in real life to the ratio in the specs. Without running an objective
> test there is no way to know if one brand is stretching the ration a
> little and another stretching it a lot.

> In the interest of full disclosure. I have the 2001FP.

> Norman

>>I have owned a Dell 18" 1800FP for about 18 months now. 1280x1024
>> native resolution. Aside from web surfing, email, taxes, word
>> processing, it is exclusively for ***. When I got mine, LCD's were
>> really new to the market and concerns were over "Ghosting", due to the
>> "refresh rate" (it's not refresh rate on an LCD,it's response time
>> IIRC). I only play racing sims, GPL, NR2003, F1C, GTR, RBR and now NSR.
>> Never, not once, have I had an issue with my LCD and it's ability to
>> accurately display any of these titles. Knock on wood, no dead pixels
>> eithers.

>> Dell is selling their 20" LCD (1600x1200 res) for around $700 I think,
>> which is about $100 or so more than I paid for mine a year and a half
>> ago. I don't what your pricing requirements are, but I'll bet you can a
>> similar model to mine for $500. They offer lots of other brands as well
>> as the Dell (Look for the "Ultrasharp" tag) models. Dell always has
>> tons of sales and coupon offers, so you be able to "buy up" if you time
>> it right.

>> Hope this helped.

>> Darus

by **Larr** » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:31:17

Dave,

Weak warranty :(

"One-year limited warranty on parts, labor and backlight for units purchased
in the U.S. only. Three-year limited warranty on units purchased outside of
the U.S."

Nice monitor though!

-Larry

>I bought this
> http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries...
> from Best Buy recently and couldn't be happier. It's on sale now for $500
> with a $50.00 rebate.

> 16ms response time. No ghosting. Everything looks beautiful.

> --
> David G Fisher

>> I have been looking into a flat screen LCD to get more desk space...
>> Ih ave a freind who can get me a good deal on an Acer 1912...19" LCD
>> monitor. But the reviews I saw were a little 'ify' on it.... Anybody
>> know anything about this monitor or have any recomendations? I want at
>> least a 17" and would really like a 19" but cost is a serious
>> consideration.

>> TIA

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