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OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

Tom Pabs

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Tom Pabs » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:00:56

Wow....have you guys seen this?  This blew me away......stumbled on this
looking for some "tweak-programs" for this ASUS mobo problem reported to you
below.

Make sure you are sitting down when you click on the link below!

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Tom

Pierre Legra

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Pierre Legra » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:00:04

Why thats not a surprising finding....makes perfect sense. Intel has
been caught napping...my Athlon 1.46mhz purchased for 225 dollars
smokes anything in that price range or higher by Intel.

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Alastair Ingra

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Alastair Ingra » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:08:43

How many apps or programs take advantage of P4 architecture? This is not a
smart ass reply. I really would like to know. Could AMD get left behind when
programmers start to write programs and games for the P4?

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ICQ#108243828

Wow....have you guys seen this?  This blew me away......stumbled on this
looking for some "tweak-programs" for this ASUS mobo problem reported to you
below.

Make sure you are sitting down when you click on the link below!

http://cgi.zdnet.com/zdpoll/question.html?pollid=22478&action=a&n=ip

Tom

Rod Princ

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Rod Princ » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:29:11



It's not surprising, it'll be a poll pre***ly driven by
consumer voting. However, I doubt Intel has too much to worry
about especially since picking up the R&D to the Alpha chip.

Consumer market is a drop in the pond when it comes to PC
sales.

Cheers,
Rod.

Jan Verschuere

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:55:49

Well, I don't know if they're any better but they sure are strong.

Recently I had to configure a box for a customer (transfer his E-mail and
stuff from the old one), a Compaq Pressario 1.2Ghz Athlon. Unbeknown to me a
piece of transportation tape had been left inside and found it's way into
the processor fan. That processor spent 4 hours cooking itself before I
opened the case to check if the constant locking up could have something to
do with a card or connector not being properly seated (one doesn't expect
something like that to happen in a brand new Compaq). Burned my fingers on
the heatsink at the time, but with ventilation restored it's still running
reliably now.

Score one for AMD as far as I'm concerned.

Jan.
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Txl

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Txl » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 19:13:20

I will not call this a smart ass program but do you realize the extent of
what you say ,

Not only do the PC industry wants us to change our PC every 2 years or so
but then you would imply that we would have to change our software every 2
years when the programmers take into account the "new" functions of each
chip....

I remember the good old days of the MMX instructions, Pentium pro
instructions, Pentium II, Pentium III, AMD for their part just had some
special 3Dnow coding...

Do you realize if Papy had to make a GPL for P2, then add some "special"
code for P3 then for P4 when it is released...if you start down this road
you will soon end up having special video boards instructions, sound
instructions....

I think it is up to the chip manufacturers to adapt to the thousands of
programs out in this world and not have the software companies adapt to
whatever ***the Intel marketing department comes out with to justify
higher price and lower capacity..."You pay more, for less speed...BUT you
have the special instructions set"...

What a joke from them...and it works, some people still hang on to intel for
"compatibility reasons"...



> How many apps or programs take advantage of P4 architecture? This is not a
> smart ass reply. I really would like to know. Could AMD get left behind
when
> programmers start to write programs and games for the P4?

> --
> Alastair Ingram
> www.saxlessons.com
> ICQ#108243828


> Wow....have you guys seen this?  This blew me away......stumbled on this
> looking for some "tweak-programs" for this ASUS mobo problem reported to
you
> below.

> Make sure you are sitting down when you click on the link below!

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> Tom

> dNow

Rafe McAulif

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Rafe McAulif » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 19:20:44

On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 05:08:43 GMT, "Alastair Ingram"


>How many apps or programs take advantage of P4 architecture? This is not a
>smart ass reply. I really would like to know. Could AMD get left behind when
>programmers start to write programs and games for the P4?

I think its pretty damn stupid to design a cpu that needs to have
software specifically written for it to perform well. The athlon beats
the p4 everywhere, and then when software is written for 3dnow!, then
it absolutely creams it! Dunno who would pay twice as much for a cpu
that won't run properly for another 6-12 months.

AMD won't get left behind, they'll stay in front. The Athlon4 will use
SSE2 as well as 3dnow!, so any software optimised for Intel will also
be optimised for AMD. The future of AMD is looking bright IMHO.

Well, goes to show that if you make a good product, people will sit up
and take notice. Kudos to AMD. They make a killer cpu. Now if only
they'd make a killer mobo chipset...

Nodd

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Nodd » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 19:29:07



>Well, goes to show that if you make a good product, people will sit up
>and take notice. Kudos to AMD. They make a killer cpu. Now if only
>they'd make a killer mobo chipset...

What's wrong with AMD760 chipset? It's rock solid on this FIC-AD11 mb
I have.
Thom j

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Thom j » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:28:44

Yea cuz AMD is a lot cheaper verses Intel, thats all!!

| Wow....have you guys seen this?  This blew me away......stumbled on this
| looking for some "tweak-programs" for this ASUS mobo problem reported to
you
| below.
| Make sure you are sitting down when you click on the link below!
| http://cgi.zdnet.com/zdpoll/question.html?pollid=22478&action=a&n=ip
| Tom

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Uncle Feste

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Uncle Feste » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:29:47


> Do you realize if Papy had to make a GPL for P2, then add some "special"
> code for P3 then for P4 when it is released...

...that we would be on GPL 3 right now!!  Damn, we need changes.  <g>

--

Fester

istof

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by istof » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:42:16




>> Do you realize if Papy had to make a GPL for P2, then add some "special"
>> code for P3 then for P4 when it is released...

>...that we would be on GPL 3 right now!!  Damn, we need changes.  <g>

hey ianm,

you were right again...

Regards all,
istoff

"Its easy to get lost in thought
if you don't go there often"    - Me, 1993

Txl

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Txl » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 23:03:09

istoff, i'm really interested by your pitboard editing tool, any ETA ? How
is the beta running ?
Can you include a feature to get back to the "original values" as i have
messed quite badly with them so my .ini file is not really standard
anymore...

Congrats and thanks






> >> Do you realize if Papy had to make a GPL for P2, then add some
"special"
> >> code for P3 then for P4 when it is released...

> >...that we would be on GPL 3 right now!!  Damn, we need changes.  <g>
> hey ianm,

> you were right again...

> Regards all,
> istoff

> "Its easy to get lost in thought
> if you don't go there often"    - Me, 1993

Txl

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by Txl » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 23:04:54

I cannot phrase it in a better way, why pay 20 or 30% extra for the same (if
not less) performance , if you want to spend the extra money anyway get some
extra RAM or a bigger HD...
istof

OT: (well kind of off-topic)....ZDNET Poll - Who Makes Better CPU's?

by istof » Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:17:33


>istoff, i'm really interested by your pitboard editing tool, any ETA ? How
>is the beta running ?
>Can you include a feature to get back to the "original values" as i have
>messed quite badly with them so my .ini file is not really standard
>anymore...

>Congrats and thanks

http://members.fortunecity.com/istoff/gpl/

try it yourself :)

it *does* keep the original values as well :)

let me know if it solves your problem.

Regards all,
istoff


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