rec.autos.simulators

http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3008

Then, go download VDMSound which lets you play old DOS games with
sound and USB wheel support in XP.

http://www.ece.mcgill.ca/~vromas/vdmsound/

Jet

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Fillyourboots

It sure is fun looking back though.  I spent hours playing it when it
first came out ... but I  remember it looking a lot more realistic :).

My favorite thing about this game (at the time sim) was that they left
the wrecked cars on the track during a yellow.  If there were more than
one involved in a wreck, they would be removed one or two at a time.
Gave you something to look at (ha ha) and drive around during the
caution laps.  I still miss that in the sims we have today.

Russell

I saw it running smoothly at the ESCORS LAN last year. I'll ask on the
forum.

Todays crop of simmers can't be trusted to miss a stationary car on an oval,
even at pacing speed. ;-)

Jan.
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Corporation - helping America into the New World...

It's fun to see how things haven't really changed even after 15 years.  The
coding for those 3 bars on the side of the***pit eventually stayed until
Icr2 where you could still adjust the brake bias, rear and front anti-roll
bars.  Those particule polygons, well with the years they were transformed
into car-shaped polygons, and I think they are still there even in their
recent sims, if you crashed, debris still appear but being more complex
(you can still pass through them).  Even the Fx functions toggle the SAME
information boards (F1 = lap info F2= standings etc..).  The replays had the
standard incar/behind/track/tv/sky found in every other Papy release since,
but it also had a fun leader/crash function that I nowadays miss.  I think
the crash replay setting was in Nascar Racing 2.  I got a hold on the
original Indy500 manual a long time ago.  I didn't remember you could toggle
"Cruise Control" by pressing C.

It's easy to see the small steps in evolution between :
Indy500-->Icr1-->N1-->Icr2-->N2-->NR99-->N3-->gpl-->N4-->Nr2002-->Nr2003.

You just need to check out the credits to understand how important that sim
is for us :

Lead Design                David Kaemmer
Lead Programming        David Kaemmer
Programming        Richard Garcia
Music / Sound         Rob Hubbard

I mean we all know about David Kaemmer and Rich Garcia, but heck even
somebody like Rob Hubbard is nowadays remembered as one of the pioneer of
80's C64 video game music.  Anybody who has played something like Road Rash
or EA's NHL Hockey games or even Skate or Die/Ski or Die remembers his
music.  His intro music for Indy500 is one of the tune that sticks in my
head from time to time.

But then again those friggin guys at Papy made a LORD OF THE RINGS game back
in those days, so how cool where they?  I wish one of them could share some
fun behind-the-scene stuff that happened there in the early 90's, some
behind-the-scene stuff about their old plans for Hawaii, some developpers
vs. producer fight stories, etc...

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

In those days, Compuserve was the hot online ticket, and in their
Gamer's Forum, I met a guy named Matt Sentell, who was also obsessed
with Indy500-the Simulation, and we compared notes and techniques.  This
culminated in the formation of the first (to my knowledge) online racing
series, in which we ran races then reported the results online, and kept
track of points and standings.

The other result of that early racing collaboration, and the real point
of this message, is that Matt went on to work at Papyrus, and was (one
of) the main motivators behind the production of the purest sim that has
ever been produced: Grand Prix Legends.

...Ron

I used to record finishing position for the full-length races I ran.  Haven't
seen that paper in a while, though - I wonder if it's still in the house?

Eldred
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