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Mats Lofkvist
>> I dare you to name a few driving games (beside N4 and N2002) with a
>> better PHYSICS model as GPL.
>F1 2001. No, I'm not kidding. It's true some of the track modelling is
>questionable, and like all sims there are people claiming that the grip
>or the aero or something is wrong, but I think the underlying physics
>code is as solid and comprehensive as you will find anywhere.
>> I fully disagree, beside N4 & N2002, GPL has the most sophisticated
>> physics model of todays racing games. There is no flaw, only parts
>> which aren't modelled.
>Sophisticated? I don't think so. While I can't prove this, I suspect
>very strongly that GPL uses the "simplified suspension model" with
>virtual links, roll centers, equivalent wheel rates, etc. I think that
>is why we see "wheel rates" rather than spring rates in the setup
>screen. I think this is why the cars feel so wallowy and imprecise
>compared to other sims. I also think doing a full kinematic suspension
>model at 288 hz on the average P200 that was around when GPL was
>released would have been impossible. More modern sims have taken
>advantage of more modern hardware and are doing more thorough and
>comprehensive physics modelling. F1 2001 for example appears to have a
>full kinematics model of the suspension. GPL was excellent for the time
>it was released, but that was three years ago. Computing power has more
>than quadrupled since then.
About F2001, I seems to have a decent physicsmodel, but somehow it
doesn't feel right to me. Of course, it could be the controller setup,
which plain sucks IMO. Also, since you can't see the suspension
working when you view the replay, it's kinda hard to judge things.
Remco
> I meant sophisticated in relation with other sims. This because the
> poster I replied to let it sound as if GPL has the worst physicsmodel
> of all racingsims ever released. (I must add that I'm aware of the
> fact that he mixed the physicsmodel and the values you put in a
> physicsmodel up, and yes, some data in GPL might be off)
Hmm. I think a lot of people would agree with you on that, but I'm not
sure I do. The only other modern F1 sims I have played are GP3 and
F1CS2K, and I definitely feel like both the physics accuracy (in terms
of comparing to real world telemetry) and the feel are better in F1 2001
than in those two. But I certainly agree that the controller setup
sucks and really needs to be fixed for F1 2002.
Nah.. after 5 months of frustrating experimenting I allready got my
controller working in F1 2001!
Andre
> >than in those two. But I certainly agree that the controller setup
> >sucks and really needs to be fixed for F1 2002.
> Nah.. after 5 months of frustrating experimenting I allready got my
> controller working in F1 2001!
> Andre
