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NetKar - my two cents...

Cristian Eichle

NetKar - my two cents...

by Cristian Eichle » Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:29:39

Hi,
so, first of all congrats to Stefano for the most incredible piece of coding
by a single guy i've ever seen, and thanks for making it all available for
free on the net. Now for my review. I think he got the feel quite right,
although it is certainly not "the newGPL" as someone said in an earlier
post. There's still _something_ missing, most notably the sensation of speed
in my opinion. In terms of cars i like the formula cars best. The saloon
cars are all a bit
*can't find the right adjective here*.Once someone here called 'em "dull"
and that's probably the closest description i can give. Another thing I'd
love to see is a gear display somewhere  in those cars as well. Not that
small one in the lower left corner of the screen. Too busy to look there.:-)
But since it's like all programs a work in
progress thing, i'm sure great things lie ahead.So, where are the (modern)
F1 and the GPL era F1 cars? *waiting impatiently*

So, the bottom line is: A great program that needs some finishing touches.
Now looking at it this way, it's a great idea to use the whole internet
community as beta testers... :-)

ok, gotta get back to Falkenberg now for some Formula renault laps...

bye

Cris

Doug Elliso

NetKar - my two cents...

by Doug Elliso » Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:31:32


Thing that amazed me the most -is the FPS you can get in Netkar for direct
F12k2 track conversions.

F12k2 - might get 45 - 50fps on your own on the track. Netkar will a) look
better and b) hit 60-80fps.

Shows how poor the engine is for the F1X series

doug

Ed Solhei

NetKar - my two cents...

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:35:40

As much as I would love to test Netkar - I just can't...  I keep getting
some wierd errors when selection trackday or multi.  Somthing about
"Extrenal exception EEFFACE" and "Access violations at adress 00E42B58 in
module trackday.dll. Read address 0000001C."  The track/car-list comes up
but it does not list any cars or tracks...

I've downloaded both 0.96 and 0.99 and the same thing happens with both...
I've even tried to d/l from multiple sites...

Btw, are there no official download-site for this thing?

And no forum?

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jbod

NetKar - my two cents...

by jbod » Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:55:20


> As much as I would love to test Netkar - I just can't...  I keep getting
> some wierd errors when selection trackday or multi.  Somthing about
> "Extrenal exception EEFFACE" and "Access violations at adress 00E42B58 in
> module trackday.dll. Read address 0000001C."  The track/car-list comes up
> but it does not list any cars or tracks...

> I've downloaded both 0.96 and 0.99 and the same thing happens with both...
> I've even tried to d/l from multiple sites...

> Btw, are there no official download-site for this thing?

> And no forum?

There is an official forum on the drivingitalia.net site -- there is
an Italian forum and an english forum, but there's not much traffic on
the english site, so unless you speak Italian, you might be better off
*** out at the RaceSim Central netKar forum.

As for your "EEFFACE" error, I've had this happen before myself -- a
couple of times, in fact, but it only happens when I've tried to
install an add-on track and ***ed the installation.  It seems that
netKar is VERY sensitive to the file structure, so I highly recommend
that you try installing just the game itself and get it running before
you try to install any tracks or skins.

Here's a thread on the RSC forum addressing your specific problem, in
fact:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

And another:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Finally, you'll want to check out THIS thread for all you need to
enjoy netKar at its best:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Hope this helps!

-- JB

Damien Smit

NetKar - my two cents...

by Damien Smit » Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:55:18

Sure you don't mean GP4?
Damien Smit

NetKar - my two cents...

by Damien Smit » Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:06:53

Speed sensation is all down to field of view.  Netkar uses a fairly narrow
FOV of about 60-70 degrees and GPL uses a wider FOV - 80 degrees from
memory.....

Doug Elliso

NetKar - my two cents...

by Doug Elliso » Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:15:25


Nope - I mean F12002

Doug

db

NetKar - my two cents...

by db » Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:36:17


 www.nkzone.com is sort of the official english netkar site.

Darius

Maxi

NetKar - my two cents...

by Maxi » Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:06:39


...Speed sensation comes when you go fast enough... :) .

Ed Solhei

NetKar - my two cents...

by Ed Solhei » Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:20:58

Thanks John...

I got it solved now...  I had Brands Hatch installed and Netkar didnt like
that for some reason...

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ed_

Damien Smit

NetKar - my two cents...

by Damien Smit » Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:26:07

Spa is the only track that I'm aware of that is being converted from F1
2002.  Frame rate is roughly the same in both games on my PC (as least with
one car on track) 80-100fps

Uwe hoover Schuerkam

NetKar - my two cents...

by Uwe hoover Schuerkam » Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:05:51

I downloaded Lime Rock today (great conversion), but it seems
that I can go flat out in the F3000 except for turn two. I
wonder if this is realistic, just lifting off the throttle and
applying steering lock, hardly any braking required? Or is this
a question of "tuning" the setup?

Also, is there a way to display frame rates in netkar while
driving or is FRAPS required?

Regards,
uwe

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Jussi 'Igor' Koukk

NetKar - my two cents...

by Jussi 'Igor' Koukk » Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:34:57



Netkar seems to be very picky about the directory names and structure. I had
the same problem when installing Suzuka... the zip file was named something
like "Suzuka_099_beta", so I unzipped it to a folder with the same name, and
netkar kept crashing. Then I took a look at some text file in the Suzuka
directory and noticed that the track's name was defined as "Suzuka", so I
renamed the directory, and netkar worked again.

Jussi 'Igor' Koukk

NetKar - my two cents...

by Jussi 'Igor' Koukk » Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:35:49



FOV can be adjusted in netkar by pressing F7 and F8 while driving...

Damien Smit

NetKar - my two cents...

by Damien Smit » Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:03:03

True, but the range is very limited - especially in the mini.


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