rec.autos.simulators

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Bart

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Do like I do and use auto transmission. Yea, yea, I'm a wimp. :-)

BTW, do you know what the online community is like for the full version now that
Insane has been released in NA?

Thanx,
Leo

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ronny

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Yip, I haven't had much luck ever playing a Papy game on a keyboard...
most others do have a provision for this though although times are never going to be great. It does keep you going between lunch hours though:-)

  Is it just me, or has the notion of playing a racing game with the keyboard become a thing of the past these days?  I just read an article today that confirmed something I guess I already knew:  nascar 4 + keyboard = waste of time : )  This certainly speaks wonders for the realism of the game, but now it's just another game that I can only play when I setup up my steering wheel.  Remember the good old days when you could quickly stop the work your supposed to be doing on your computer, and turn a few laps in your favorite racing game using just the keyboard?  But now almost every racing game I own requires me to clear my desk, hook up my steering wheel, put the pedals in place, take some pills for the impending back pain, and then finally play.  I mean this is fine when you're setting up for a few hours worth of racing, but it's not so good when your seeking a quick distraction : )  So is it just me, or does anyone else yearn for the good ol' days of keyboard racing?
  Desperately trying to start my thesis,
  Leo
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  "The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up."

I think it's sad that developpers forget there is still keyboard racers out
there, but I understand that with the complexity of today's game engine and
the realism of the sims, it's quite difficult to implement.  Gone are the
days of driving on rails, where keyboards really were almost an advantage
due to the rapidity it took to change direction.

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-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

I have never run Insane online. And hardly offline for that matter, lack of
time and too many sims to play and teams/competitions to run .... Still I
felt I had to buy it after having played the demo :)
The online game is played through Codemasters servers as far as I know. I
don't know who play there and if there are any leagues going. Maybe someone
else can tell you more.

Bart

 I think "developpers" is too general. GP3 has excellent keyboard support,
Insane as well. The way they implement it is the software emulates a wheel,
which starts turning when the corresponding key is pressed and starts
turning back when the key is released. In Insane you can set the speed at
which the wheel turns and goes back. When done in this way, good keyboard
support is not contradictory to a complex physics engine. Ok, keyboarders
won't be able to explore all the subtleties of the physics engine, but you'd
be amazed to see the level of control a good keyboard player can reach.

Bart Westra

Leo

(this time I skipped the smiley, as context should be sufficient this time)

I couldn't drive GP3 around 3 corners using the keyboard, some people enjoy
it. So, it's just great it's in, isn't it?

Flight sims - no market, too difficult. Put the damn options in to not
stall the plane every 2 minutes, put in the deathmatch mode. Maybe that
saves the sim market...

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   ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_              in his sleep.
        |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'     Not like the people in his car,
       '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

Hey I flew FS in CGA for about two years using a darn keyboard ;-)   I don't
count anymore the stalls I had when playing it!  But I did not stop, because
the sim was made for me.  If It wasn't, then I would had stopped playing.

If those lazy people can't have an attention span or more then 30seconds,
it's their problem.  Screw them, the developpers don't have to be the
martyrs of those spoiled MTV generation brats, IMHO.

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

|
| >Many times I think I do Jagg :o)
| >The only disadvantage I found is in GPL when I must turn, brake and
| >feather my gas (using my personal form ot trail'breaking} while down
| >shifting. Its a bit tough on the hands..lol
| >Thom_j.
|
| Do like I do and use auto transmission. Yea, yea, I'm a wimp. :-)

Yes, in GPL, and every other sim I own for that matter. :-)