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Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

David L. Co

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by David L. Co » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Will a second Diamond Monster3D-2 12MB (SLI) increase my frame rate for
GPL?  Right now I've got everything turned on, and am running at 800x600.  
I'm seeing dramatic changes in frame rate at the start of a race and when
there is lot's of traffic.

I'd like to see close to 37fps all the time without having to sacrifice
graphics.  Thanks in advance for your assistance.  BTW - I'm running a
Dell P2-400 with 64MB 100Mhz RAM.

David Cook

Michael E. Carve

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Michael E. Carve » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00


% Will a second Diamond Monster3D-2 12MB (SLI) increase my frame rate for
% GPL?  Right now I've got everything turned on, and am running at 800x600.  
% I'm seeing dramatic changes in frame rate at the start of a race and when
% there is lot's of traffic.

% I'd like to see close to 37fps all the time without having to sacrifice
% graphics.  Thanks in advance for your assistance.  BTW - I'm running a
% Dell P2-400 with 64MB 100Mhz RAM.

I don't know that adding another Voodoo2 via SLI will really give you a
frame rate boost, but it should allow you to run higher resolutions with
similar frame rates as the 800x600.  Especially since you may need to
lower the clock speed of the cards to run them in SLI mode.

The cheap fix, is to use the glide wrapper patch and set the mirrors to
refresh every other frame.  Unless you drive exclusively by watching the
mirrors, you shouldn't notice the mirror refresh rate too much.

For those on the quest for high frame rates (and as much eye-candy as
you can get) and have a 3DFX card, try using the glide wrapper authored
by George Smiley <http://www.grandprix2.com/gpl/patches/glide2x.zip>.
Try setting the mirror to refresh every other frame.  I found that this
works quite well (updates are often enough for safe defensive driving)
and allowed me to turn on more eye-candy at higher resolutions and still
maintain a fairly steady 36 fps.  However, at some tracks I must turn
off the track and objects in the mirrors if everything else is turned
on.  I am running a stock PII-300 and basically use the 640x480
resolution in GPL.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Chris Schlette

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Chris Schlette » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I have a P2400 and 2 Voodoo2 12megs.  I generally run with car & track only
in the mirrors, and all other options on with 3/4 detail level set.  I can
peg it at 36fps in 800x600. In 1024x768 I only get 36 in chase view, it
drops about 5 to 10fps in in-car view.
David L. Coo

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by David L. Coo » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Thanks, I guess the max is 36fps, not 37...  I'll check out that wrapper
and adjust my mirrors per your suggestion.  Apreciate your feedback.

David Cook



> % Will a second Diamond Monster3D-2 12MB (SLI) increase my frame rate for
> % GPL?  Right now I've got everything turned on, and am running at 800x600.
> % I'm seeing dramatic changes in frame rate at the start of a race and when
> % there is lot's of traffic.

> % I'd like to see close to 37fps all the time without having to sacrifice
> % graphics.  Thanks in advance for your assistance.  BTW - I'm running a
> % Dell P2-400 with 64MB 100Mhz RAM.

> I don't know that adding another Voodoo2 via SLI will really give you a
> frame rate boost, but it should allow you to run higher resolutions with
> similar frame rates as the 800x600.  Especially since you may need to
> lower the clock speed of the cards to run them in SLI mode.

> The cheap fix, is to use the glide wrapper patch and set the mirrors to
> refresh every other frame.  Unless you drive exclusively by watching the
> mirrors, you shouldn't notice the mirror refresh rate too much.

> For those on the quest for high frame rates (and as much eye-candy as
> you can get) and have a 3DFX card, try using the glide wrapper authored
> by George Smiley <http://www.grandprix2.com/gpl/patches/glide2x.zip>.
> Try setting the mirror to refresh every other frame.  I found that this
> works quite well (updates are often enough for safe defensive driving)
> and allowed me to turn on more eye-candy at higher resolutions and still
> maintain a fairly steady 36 fps.  However, at some tracks I must turn
> off the track and objects in the mirrors if everything else is turned
> on.  I am running a stock PII-300 and basically use the 640x480
> resolution in GPL.

> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

McKafr

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by McKafr » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

i ve a CL voodoo2 8 meg ...

i will wait for Voodoo3  (2D + 3Dfx + AGP + TVOut) sounds good

McKafre De La Rosa
www.repsol.com

David L. Cook escribi en mensaje ...

Dean

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Dean » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I put a 2nd 12 meg CL card in (K6 400 64mb) and - get this - lost a few fps.
All other software benefitted but GPL didn't. I haven't ruled out a problem
with my system but given the failry simple graphics that GPL has I don't see
it being a problem for 1 card to max it out. Maybe the second card slows
down the bus or something but it certainly doesn't make sense. Switching
resolution doen't make any difference either. Going from 640 to 1024 doesn't
cause a single frame to drop.

The processor is all important with GPL.

Dean

Remco Moe

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Remco Moe » Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>I put a 2nd 12 meg CL card in (K6 400 64mb) and - get this - lost a few fps.

Hi Dean,

I got that problem too. Some kind soul gave me the solution, i.e.: In
the 3Dfx settings, check the "Dont sync with Monitor" option.

Remco

Dean

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Dean » Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:00:00



>>I put a 2nd 12 meg CL card in (K6 400 64mb) and - get this - lost a few
fps.

>Hi Dean,

>I got that problem too. Some kind soul gave me the solution, i.e.: In
>the 3Dfx settings, check the "Dont sync with Monitor" option.

>Remco

Excellent! Thanks a lot. I thought it was a bit odd to lose performance.

Dean

Larr

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Larr » Sat, 06 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Uh, we already have that.  viper 550 & ATI Rage Fury :)

I think it's a _lot_ wiser to keep the AGP card 2D & Directx (Whether
RivaTNT or Rage Fury) and have the VooDoo II or whatever in a PCI slot.
That way, you have 100% coverage for anything that might come along.

-Larry


> i will wait for Voodoo3  (2D + 3Dfx + AGP + TVOut) sounds good

Rob Adla

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Rob Adla » Sun, 07 Mar 1999 04:00:00

  I'll lay my money on that kind soul being Michael Carver! :))
  One of many kind souls on this NG. Thanks everyone!

--

     Rob.



>>I put a 2nd 12 meg CL card in (K6 400 64mb) and - get this - lost a few
fps.

>Hi Dean,

>I got that problem too. Some kind soul gave me the solution, i.e.: In
>the 3Dfx settings, check the "Dont sync with Monitor" option.

>Remco

Adam

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Adam » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Thanks, I guess the max is 36fps, not 37...  I'll check out that wrapper
>and adjust my mirrors per your suggestion.  Apreciate your feedback.

>David Cook




>> % Will a second Diamond Monster3D-2 12MB (SLI) increase my frame rate for
>> % GPL?  Right now I've got everything turned on, and am running at
800x600.
>> % I'm seeing dramatic changes in frame rate at the start of a race and
when
>> % there is lot's of traffic.

>> % I'd like to see close to 37fps all the time without having to sacrifice
>> % graphics.  Thanks in advance for your assistance.  BTW - I'm running a
>> % Dell P2-400 with 64MB 100Mhz RAM.

>> I don't know that adding another Voodoo2 via SLI will really give you a
>> frame rate boost, but it should allow you to run higher resolutions with
>> similar frame rates as the 800x600.  Especially since you may need to
>> lower the clock speed of the cards to run them in SLI mode.

>> The cheap fix, is to use the glide wrapper patch and set the mirrors to
>> refresh every other frame.  Unless you drive exclusively by watching the
>> mirrors, you shouldn't notice the mirror refresh rate too much.

>> For those on the quest for high frame rates (and as much eye-candy as
>> you can get) and have a 3DFX card, try using the glide wrapper authored
>> by George Smiley <http://www.grandprix2.com/gpl/patches/glide2x.zip>.
>> Try setting the mirror to refresh every other frame.  I found that this
>> works quite well (updates are often enough for safe defensive driving)
>> and allowed me to turn on more eye-candy at higher resolutions and still
>> maintain a fairly steady 36 fps.  However, at some tracks I must turn
>> off the track and objects in the mirrors if everything else is turned
>> on.  I am running a stock PII-300 and basically use the 640x480
>> resolution in GPL.

>> --
>> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>>      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

No it isn't! I keep hearing people claiming that the maximum frame rate in
Grand Prix Legends is 36fps, but if I switch most details right down I get
37fps!

Adam

Don Burnett

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Don Burnett » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I see 37 pretty regular.

--
Don Burnette
Palmetto Racing
Dburn on Ten



>>Thanks, I guess the max is 36fps, not 37...  I'll check out that wrapper
>>and adjust my mirrors per your suggestion.  Apreciate your feedback.

Remco Moe

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Remco Moe » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi Don,


>I see 37 pretty regular.

Well, you could see 37 in the framecounter, but hey, it is wrong! :-)

On a serious note however, since the replayfile is recorded at 36 fps,
I doubt that the game-engine can support more.

Remco

Adam

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Adam » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Hi Don,


>>I see 37 pretty regular.

>Well, you could see 37 in the framecounter, but hey, it is wrong! :-)

>On a serious note however, since the replayfile is recorded at 36 fps,
>I doubt that the game-engine can support more.

>Remco

How can you tell which is right and which is wrong though, concidering that
it's such a small detail, it's not like if it were 10fps, where you would be
able to tell just by looking at it...
Remco Moe

Considering 2nd 12MB Voodoo2...

by Remco Moe » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00



>>On a serious note however, since the replayfile is recorded at 36 fps,
>>I doubt that the game-engine can support more.
>How can you tell which is right and which is wrong though, concidering that
>it's such a small detail, it's not like if it were 10fps, where you would be
>able to tell just by looking at it...

Hi Adam,

Like I said, the replay file is captured in frames every 1/36 of a
second. This is for me a clue that the game engine doesn't support a
framerate more then 36 fps. When I used the word "wrong" I meant to
say that the framecounter doesn't show the right FPS, and not that
you're wrong.  Of course I can't see the difference between 36 and 37
fps, you silly you!

Remco


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