I was in England last week and saw this TOCA PC game. Is it a simulation or
an arcade game? JV
I was in England last week and saw this TOCA PC game. Is it a simulation or
an arcade game? JV
> I was in England last week and saw this TOCA PC game. Is it a simulation or
> an arcade game? JV
Graphics are OK on a 3dfx.
Definitely arcade, since there are no setups, telemetry, real damage,
mirrors etc, but borders on the sim genre in realism. The AI races very
rough and heavy and there are `yellow card' as there are in real life.
The cars look fabulous and can look very battered (but really aren't).
You can spin upside down like 4 times in a row (even gives me enough
time to swap to***pit).
You only have two circuits at the beginning and you must get good
results to get the rest of the circuits (although some have already
found their way around this...).
Certain flaws : even on low sentivity, it is very twitchy. I tried
lowered the keyboard repeat rate thru W95, but even then, winning at
Brands Hatch was unbelivably dicey. And I can't use my CH pedals either.
Stanley
My personal opinion is that it sits between sim and arcade but it is more
sim than arcade simply because the driving experience "feels" right. I've
been on a couple of tracks depicted (albeit on a bike, not in a car) and
the reproduction of the tracks and the way that you drive them seems spot
on.
With an analog controller, the progressive brake/throttle and steering is
very nice to use although steering is twitchy even on the low
sensitivity.
I've been running NASCAR2 as my promary driving sim for a while but I'm
swtiching to TOCA for a while, it's a blast.
Nick
I'm sorry but I think I must be loosing my mind. Every review I've read
about TOCA seems to praise it's realistic handling...they don't handle like
any car I've driven. Has anyone else noticed that the cars seem to bounce
down the straights, like they've got square wheels. People I speak to say
its just settling on its springs, but it's more than that, the track isn't
smooth, it seems to be made of lots of straight bits knocked together to
make curves. You can see the lumps approaching as you drive along and then
leap over them. Definitely arcade in my view. Plus it's got to be the
ugliest 3Dfx game ever made. Am I the only one to think like this?
>With an analog controller, the progressive brake/throttle and steering is
>very nice to use although steering is twitchy even on the low
>sensitivity.
>I've been running NASCAR2 as my promary driving sim for a while but I'm
>swtiching to TOCA for a while, it's a blast.
>Nick
>> I was in England last week and saw this TOCA PC game. Is it a simulation
or
>> an arcade game? JV
Nope. I deleted it off the HD and took it back to the shop. It's a pile
of steaming toss, I said to the bloke when he asked what was wrong with
it. If you ever sell me such rubbish again I shall make your assistant
shove it up your[NO CARRIER]
I would guess that Touring cars probably DO handle unlike anything you've
ever driven unless you're lucky enough to have cut some laps in a TCC
car.
Last time I rode at Brands Hatch it WASN'T smooth and that was on a road
bike with soft suspension. I guess in a stiffly setup Touring car, you
would bounce around a fair bit but I do agree that the effect seems to be
a bit accentuated in TOCA.
Yeah, I gotta agree with you on that but I rarely notice itwhen I'm
running at race speed.
The tarmac textures are the only thing that really grate on me, apart
from that the graphics seem OK rather than brilliant.
I agree that TOCA is lightweight for a sim but I would also contend that
it appears realistic enough not to get slagged off as just another arcade
racer. That's just a personal opinion and I can see that others would not
agree with me !
Later, nick
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:51:37 -0000, "Tim Harrison"
FastPants :)
TOP BLOKE !!!
>> I'm sorry but I think I must be loosing my mind. Every review I've read
>> about TOCA seems to praise it's realistic handling...they don't handle
like
>> any car I've driven. Has anyone else noticed that the cars seem to bounce
>> down the straights, like they've got square wheels. People I speak to say
>> its just settling on its springs, but it's more than that, the track
isn't
>> smooth, it seems to be made of lots of straight bits knocked together to
>> make curves. You can see the lumps approaching as you drive along and
then
>> leap over them. Definitely arcade in my view. Plus it's got to be the
>> ugliest 3Dfx game ever made. Am I the only one to think like this?
>Nope. I deleted it off the HD and took it back to the shop. It's a pile
>of steaming toss, I said to the bloke when he asked what was wrong with
>it. If you ever sell me such rubbish again I shall make your assistant
>shove it up your[NO CARRIER]
Oi! First I find Papa Doc and Io here, now you. Get back in that Flanker
*immediately* ;-)
Either that or we start a ground support team. Anyone know any good
Russian lorry sims?
Icarus
Yes, I understand your point, but there is a difference between bumps and a
car (like in TOCA) leaping around a foot in the air, which I see it do
several times a lap. I've been to many races TOCA , GP's, F3 etc over the
years and I've even had the chance ride round Oulton Park with John Cleland
strapped into his Cavalier, and never seen it happen like it does in this
game. It seems the programmers were unable to create a smooth track surface
and just tiled sections together and the simulated cars are leaping over the
ridges where
these tiles join. Sounds like I'm barking mad but that's what it feels like
to me.
>> I'm sorry but I think I must be loosing my mind. Every review I've read
>> about TOCA seems to praise it's realistic handling...they don't handle like
>> any car I've driven. Has anyone else noticed that the cars seem to bounce
>> down the straights, like they've got square wheels. People I speak to say
>> its just settling on its springs, but it's more than that, the track isn't
>> smooth, it seems to be made of lots of straight bits knocked together to
>> make curves. You can see the lumps approaching as you drive along and then
>> leap over them. Definitely arcade in my view. Plus it's got to be the
>> ugliest 3Dfx game ever made. Am I the only one to think like this?
>Nope. I deleted it off the HD and took it back to the shop. It's a pile
>of steaming toss, I said to the bloke when he asked what was wrong with
>it. If you ever sell me such rubbish again I shall make your assistant
>shove it up your[NO CARRIER]
J. Perkins
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How much RAM do you have on your machine? I'm running 64MB on a P166 (not
MMX) and Orchid 3D abd it runs smooth on full detail levels.
Nick
I am running a p150 with a stealth II and works fine with full graphics.
Only a bit gerky when its raining.