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Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

Nathan Carte

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Nathan Carte » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00


> Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my
> computer keeps crashing.  I even took the computer in and got the card
> installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard
> (Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up.  It only does
> it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else.  I have Liveware
> 3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloaded the
> most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard.  Everything I check
> under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showing no
> conflicts.  I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the
> soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly
> appreciated....

I had a similar problem that turned out to be an overheating problem.

I had a ton of stuff crammed into a mini tower, with no fan other than the one
internal to the power supply.  Also, the IDE ribbon cables were blocking what
little airflow the power supply fan would have provided.  When I added a fan and
rearranged the ribbon cables, the problem went away.

This was a couple of years ago with my K6-200 machine. When I got the Celeron
300A with the intent of overclocking, I upgraded to a nice spacious mid-tower
and added two more fans. It runs cool and stable at 450MHz.

- Nathan
P.S. an easy way to test for overheating would be to take the case cover off and
point a house fan at the guts of your machine. I wouldn't want to leave a
computer sitting open for any extended period of time, though, especially with
that cat wandering around getting into everything.

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Richard Walke

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Richard Walke » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00




> > IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable.

> Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs
> of RAM.  

Actually a 386DX with 4MB RAM.  :-O

Indeed.

--
Richard.

"'Cause I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love."

Dave St.Ong

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Dave St.Ong » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I did
get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

Disk Write Error
Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
Data or Files May Be Lost

I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I guess
what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it wants to
retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error
message.

Sys specs
Win 98
Voodoo 3 2000
SB Live! X-Gamer
400 mhz Pentium II
96 mb Ram
Most recent drivers....

Dave



> On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not
> >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating
> >me...

> You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any chance
> are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing
> between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try moving
> the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
> hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned buying
> the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be
> with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
> speakers?

> To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a
> regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or too
> close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a good
> breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes like
> that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto
> the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
> That should help.

> If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then
> it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
> that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer and
> then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
> press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look for
> an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
> "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have.
> Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
> sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
> $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
> install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.  You
> could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
> someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of people
> on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to
> newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> -T

Martyn Danb

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Martyn Danb » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

old HDD?

scandisked it lately, any bad sectors?
HDD overheating?

Md


> Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
> something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I did
> get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

> Disk Write Error
> Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> Data or Files May Be Lost

> I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I guess
> what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it wants to
> retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error
> message.

> Sys specs
> Win 98
> Voodoo 3 2000
> SB Live! X-Gamer
> 400 mhz Pentium II
> 96 mb Ram
> Most recent drivers....

> Dave



> > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not
> > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating
> > >me...

> > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any chance
> > are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing
> > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> > before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try moving
> > the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
> > hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned buying
> > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be
> > with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
> > speakers?

> > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a
> > regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or too
> > close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a good
> > breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes like
> > that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> > overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto
> > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
> > That should help.

> > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then
> > it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> > motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
> > that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer and
> > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
> > press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look for
> > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
> > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have.
> > Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
> > sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
> > $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
> > install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.  You
> > could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
> > someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of people
> > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to
> > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> > -T

Dave St.Ong

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Dave St.Ong » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets fixed
when I do scandisk.  I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to standard,
and there were no errors.  In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I had
the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it
froze and I got this message.

Dave


> old HDD?

> scandisked it lately, any bad sectors?
> HDD overheating?

> Md


> > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
> > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I
did
> > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

> > Disk Write Error
> > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> > Data or Files May Be Lost

> > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I
guess
> > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it wants
to
> > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error
> > message.

> > Sys specs
> > Win 98
> > Voodoo 3 2000
> > SB Live! X-Gamer
> > 400 mhz Pentium II
> > 96 mb Ram
> > Most recent drivers....

> > Dave



> > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has
not
> > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really
frustrating
> > > >me...

> > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any chance
> > > are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing
> > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> > > before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try moving
> > > the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
> > > hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned buying
> > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be
> > > with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
> > > speakers?

> > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a
> > > regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or too
> > > close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a good
> > > breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes like
> > > that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> > > overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto
> > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
> > > That should help.

> > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then
> > > it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> > > motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
> > > that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer and
> > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
> > > press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look for
> > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
> > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have.
> > > Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
> > > sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
> > > $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
> > > install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.  You
> > > could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
> > > someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of people
> > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to
> > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> > > -T

Dave St.Ong

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Dave St.Ong » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up
properly...

Dave


> After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets fixed
> when I do scandisk.  I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to standard,
> and there were no errors.  In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I had
> the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it
> froze and I got this message.

> Dave



> > old HDD?

> > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors?
> > HDD overheating?

> > Md


> > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
> > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I
> did
> > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

> > > Disk Write Error
> > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> > > Data or Files May Be Lost

> > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I
> guess
> > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it
wants
> to
> > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error
> > > message.

> > > Sys specs
> > > Win 98
> > > Voodoo 3 2000
> > > SB Live! X-Gamer
> > > 400 mhz Pentium II
> > > 96 mb Ram
> > > Most recent drivers....

> > > Dave



> > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has
> not
> > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really
> frustrating
> > > > >me...

> > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any
chance
> > > > are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ
sharing
> > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> > > > before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try
moving
> > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
> > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned buying
> > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could
be
> > > > with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
> > > > speakers?

> > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a
> > > > regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or too
> > > > close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a
good
> > > > breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes
like
> > > > that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> > > > overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits
onto
> > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
> > > > That should help.

> > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then
> > > > it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> > > > motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
> > > > that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer
and
> > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
> > > > press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look
for
> > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
> > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you
have.
> > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
> > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
> > > > $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
> > > > install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.
You
> > > > could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
> > > > someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of people
> > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access
to
> > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> > > > -T

Martyn Danb

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Martyn Danb » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

Hmm it has me stumped Dave

Your guess that the HDD maybe on its last legs could be correct, however
it may not be....

Sorry Dave

Md


> I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up
> properly...

> Dave



> > After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets fixed
> > when I do scandisk.  I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to standard,
> > and there were no errors.  In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I had
> > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it
> > froze and I got this message.

> > Dave



> > > old HDD?

> > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors?
> > > HDD overheating?

> > > Md


> > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
> > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I
> > did
> > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

> > > > Disk Write Error
> > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> > > > Data or Files May Be Lost

> > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I
> > guess
> > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it
> wants
> > to
> > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error
> > > > message.

> > > > Sys specs
> > > > Win 98
> > > > Voodoo 3 2000
> > > > SB Live! X-Gamer
> > > > 400 mhz Pentium II
> > > > 96 mb Ram
> > > > Most recent drivers....

> > > > Dave



> > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has
> > not
> > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really
> > frustrating
> > > > > >me...

> > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any
> chance
> > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ
> sharing
> > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try
> moving
> > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
> > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned buying
> > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could
> be
> > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
> > > > > speakers?

> > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a
> > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or too
> > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a
> good
> > > > > breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes
> like
> > > > > that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> > > > > overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits
> onto
> > > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
> > > > > That should help.

> > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then
> > > > > it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> > > > > motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
> > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer
> and
> > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
> > > > > press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look
> for
> > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
> > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you
> have.
> > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
> > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
> > > > > $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
> > > > > install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.
> You
> > > > > could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
> > > > > someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of people
> > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access
> to
> > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> > > > > -T

Thomas j. Eva

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Thomas j. Eva » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:24 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"


>Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
>something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I did
>get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

>Disk Write Error
>Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
>Data or Files May Be Lost

Umm... well, this is a shot in the dark, but... your C drive isn't
full is it?  Make sure there is a good 50 to 100mb free on the C
drive.

Otherwise, my final suggestion, before tossing it into the garbage and
shelling out money for new parts, is to reformat and reinstall Win98.
This is an annoying, arduous task, but it may be what the doctor
ordered, especially if the HD is old and has seen many days of program
installations and registry edits and so on and so forth.

-T

Dave St.Ong

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Dave St.Ong » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

The hard drive is 10.1 gb, and has 3.8 gb free space on it...basically, I'm
taking the thing back to the shop tomorrow, and going to get them to check
it out...terribly frustrating....

Dave



> On Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:24 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> >Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
> >something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I
did
> >get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

> >Disk Write Error
> >Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> >Data or Files May Be Lost

> Umm... well, this is a shot in the dark, but... your C drive isn't
> full is it?  Make sure there is a good 50 to 100mb free on the C
> drive.

> Otherwise, my final suggestion, before tossing it into the garbage and
> shelling out money for new parts, is to reformat and reinstall Win98.
> This is an annoying, arduous task, but it may be what the doctor
> ordered, especially if the HD is old and has seen many days of program
> installations and registry edits and so on and so forth.

> -T

Eldre

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Eldre » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00


It does.  We have MANY systems at work running win95 with 16MB.  They're not
blazingly FAST, but they run...<g>

Eldred
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Gary L. Bogenberge

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Gary L. Bogenberge » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

The disk errors are probably a result of the disk cache failing when writing
back data.  I'd try two things.  Do you still have the HD from an old
machine or another machine.  Try putting it in as a slave and configuring
the disk cache to function on that drive.  It may be a bit slower as an
older drive isn't likely to be as fast or even an UltraDMA but it might
isolate the problem.

Memory failure is another potential culprit but it's unlikely you've got
96MB lying around.  You might want to examine the simms and be sure they're
compatible with the CMOS settings.  It might be possible to check some of
the simms by simply removing them one at a time and seeing if the problem
persists.  If you're running 16-16-32-32 you could run W98 on 64MB if you
had to.

Good luck

GLB


> I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up
> properly...

> Dave



> > After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets
fixed
> > when I do scandisk.  I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to
standard,
> > and there were no errors.  In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I
had
> > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it
> > froze and I got this message.

> > Dave



> > > old HDD?

> > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors?
> > > HDD overheating?

> > > Md


> > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
> > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del,
I
> > did
> > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

> > > > Disk Write Error
> > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> > > > Data or Files May Be Lost

> > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and
I
> > guess
> > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it
> wants
> > to
> > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error
> > > > message.

> > > > Sys specs
> > > > Win 98
> > > > Voodoo 3 2000
> > > > SB Live! X-Gamer
> > > > 400 mhz Pentium II
> > > > 96 mb Ram
> > > > Most recent drivers....

> > > > Dave



> > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried,
has
> > not
> > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really
> > frustrating
> > > > > >me...

> > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any
> chance
> > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ
> sharing
> > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try
> moving
> > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
> > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned
buying
> > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could
> be
> > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
> > > > > speakers?

> > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on
a
> > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or
too
> > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a
> good
> > > > > breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes
> like
> > > > > that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> > > > > overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits
> onto
> > > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
> > > > > That should help.

> > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system,
then
> > > > > it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> > > > > motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
> > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer
> and
> > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
> > > > > press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look
> for
> > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
> > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you
> have.
> > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
> > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
> > > > > $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
> > > > > install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.
> You
> > > > > could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
> > > > > someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of
people
> > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get
access
> to
> > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> > > > > -T

Dave St.Ong

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Dave St.Ong » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

I don't have a second hd lying around.  As for the RAM, I have a 32 and a 64
and an open slot.  I haven't bought any RAM since I purchased the computer,
and this is the way it was configured when I bought it...

Dave



> The disk errors are probably a result of the disk cache failing when
writing
> back data.  I'd try two things.  Do you still have the HD from an old
> machine or another machine.  Try putting it in as a slave and configuring
> the disk cache to function on that drive.  It may be a bit slower as an
> older drive isn't likely to be as fast or even an UltraDMA but it might
> isolate the problem.

> Memory failure is another potential culprit but it's unlikely you've got
> 96MB lying around.  You might want to examine the simms and be sure
they're
> compatible with the CMOS settings.  It might be possible to check some of
> the simms by simply removing them one at a time and seeing if the problem
> persists.  If you're running 16-16-32-32 you could run W98 on 64MB if you
> had to.

> Good luck

> GLB



> > I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up
> > properly...

> > Dave



> > > After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets
> fixed
> > > when I do scandisk.  I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to
> standard,
> > > and there were no errors.  In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I
> had
> > > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when
it
> > > froze and I got this message.

> > > Dave



> > > > old HDD?

> > > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors?
> > > > HDD overheating?

> > > > Md


> > > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash
on
> > > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting
ctrl-alt-del,
> I
> > > did
> > > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of
death....

> > > > > Disk Write Error
> > > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
> > > > > Data or Files May Be Lost

> > > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option,
and
> I
> > > guess
> > > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it
> > wants
> > > to
> > > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this
error
> > > > > message.

> > > > > Sys specs
> > > > > Win 98
> > > > > Voodoo 3 2000
> > > > > SB Live! X-Gamer
> > > > > 400 mhz Pentium II
> > > > > 96 mb Ram
> > > > > Most recent drivers....

> > > > > Dave



> > > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> > > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried,
> has
> > > not
> > > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really
> > > frustrating
> > > > > > >me...

> > > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any
> > chance
> > > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ
> > sharing
> > > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
> > > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
> > > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try
> > moving
> > > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot.

> > > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not
even
> > > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned
> buying
> > > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem
could
> > be
> > > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your
old
> > > > > > speakers?

> > > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn
on
> a
> > > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or
> too
> > > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's
a
> > good
> > > > > > breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still
crashes
> > like
> > > > > > that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
> > > > > > overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan
(fits
> > onto
> > > > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is
ATX).
> > > > > > That should help.

> > > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system,
> then
> > > > > > it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
> > > > > > motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be
sure
> > > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the
computer
> > and
> > > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you
to
> > > > > > press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then
look
> > for
> > > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be
under
> > > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you
> > have.
> > > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED.

> > > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a
good
> > > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very
expensive.
> > > > > > $100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy
to
> > > > > > install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it
done.
> > You
> > > > > > could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious,
just
> > > > > > someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of
> people
> > > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get
> access
> > to
> > > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

> > > > > > -T

Joseph Huesma

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Joseph Huesma » Thu, 11 May 2000 04:00:00

Like he said, try reinstalling Win98.  I've had drives that became very
tempermental where reinstalling Win98 solved the problem.

>The hard drive is 10.1 gb, and has 3.8 gb free space on it...basically, I'm
>taking the thing back to the shop tomorrow, and going to get them to check
>it out...terribly frustrating....

>Dave



>> On Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:24 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

>> >Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on
>> >something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I
>did
>> >get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death....

>> >Disk Write Error
>> >Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C
>> >Data or Files May Be Lost

>> Umm... well, this is a shot in the dark, but... your C drive isn't
>> full is it?  Make sure there is a good 50 to 100mb free on the C
>> drive.

>> Otherwise, my final suggestion, before tossing it into the garbage and
>> shelling out money for new parts, is to reformat and reinstall Win98.
>> This is an annoying, arduous task, but it may be what the doctor
>> ordered, especially if the HD is old and has seen many days of program
>> installations and registry edits and so on and so forth.

>> -T

Jef

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Jef » Thu, 11 May 2000 04:00:00


My wife's computer is a 486-100 w/ 16 megs of RAM...
running Win 95.  :-)

Pops

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Pops » Thu, 11 May 2000 04:00:00


My wife's computer is a Pentium 120 w/16 megs of RAM running Windows 98!
Runs fine.

Pops...


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