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Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

Allienne Godda

Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

by Allienne Godda » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"


>Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my
>computer keeps crashing.  
[snip]
>Sys specs...
>400 mhz
>96 mb ram
>Voodoo 3 2000
>Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer

Is your computer brand-name?  What motherboard does it use?

Yours -- Ally

Dave St.Ong

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by Dave St.Ong » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00

My computer is an NEC 9897 Ready....I bought it in November 1998...

Dave


> On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"

> >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now
my
> >computer keeps crashing.
> [snip]
> >Sys specs...
> >400 mhz
> >96 mb ram
> >Voodoo 3 2000
> >Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer

> Is your computer brand-name?  What motherboard does it use?

> Yours -- Ally

Eldre

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by Eldre » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


writes:

Do you also get a device conflict between the SB16 emulation and the SBLive?
It seems like the card is conflicting with ITSELF...

Eldred
p.s. it works fine in windows - I haven't tried a DOS game yet...
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No

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by No » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


thus spoke:

True. My SBLive! defaults to IRQ5 and the SB16 emulation is using
IRQ9. I still play some dos games.

--
Nos

Mark Steven

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by Mark Steven » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00



>Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict.  I was having similar trouble
>with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were
>both on IRQ 11.

See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you
turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

--
Mark Stevens

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NightSky 42

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by NightSky 42 » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


My motherboard (Chaintech CT-6ATA2) has built-in sound, but I discovered it
to be truly awful, so I disabled it and went with my own sound card.  No
system is ever entirely crash-free, but my system works fine.  You're right,
though - part of the trick is to avoid buying no-name generic motherboards.
In another newsgroup about two months ago, I read a post from a guy who had
a PC Chips board and he said he was getting a number of unexplained random
crashes which he and no one else could figure out.  Someone suggested to him
to buy a "real" motherboard (Asus and Abit were the suggested names).  The
guy proceeded to buy one of those two makes, formatted his drive to get rid
of all the PC Chips board settings, re-installed Windows, and all of his
problems cleared up just like that.  His system is much more stable now.
Although it does not apply in the case of this thread here, another good way
to avoid crashes is not to buy cutting-edge technology.  I only buy
equipment that has been on the shelf for a while and has had the drivers
updated a few times.  This, I'm sure, has saved me a lot of headaches.

~NightSky 421~

No

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by No » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens

Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable.
Unfortunately that's not always the case. I had a SBLive! sharing the
IRQ with my 3DFX card and had no ill effects because of it. I did give
them their own IRQ's though because that's what 3DFX recommend.
Point being that sharing IRQ's under Win9x is not necessarily a bad
thing, so even though you may learn one thing by building a system
with certain hardware, it does not apply to all hardware.
--
Nos

Thomas j. Eva

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by Thomas j. Eva » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens




>>Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict.  I was having similar trouble
>>with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were
>>both on IRQ 11.

>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you
>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

Yeah, yeah... The fruits of my labor.  :)

-T

Thomas j. Eva

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by Thomas j. Eva » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


>On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens

>>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you
>>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

>Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable.

Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs
of RAM.  

That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so.  

-T

Dave St.Ong

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by Dave St.Ong » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00

And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not
worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating
me...

Dave



> On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens



> >>Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict.  I was having similar trouble
> >>with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were
> >>both on IRQ 11.

> >See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you
> >turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

> Yeah, yeah... The fruits of my labor.  :)

> -T

Slas

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by Slas » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


Evans) scribbled:


>>On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens

>>>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you
>>>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

>>Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable.

>Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs
>of RAM.  

I ran it on a 386SX/25 with 8MB of RAM. You could probably get by with
a 386SX/16 with 4MB of RAM too, although I wouldn't want to be the one
to try it. :)

This also applies to most other things in life, I've found. :P

-Slash

"The people on the internet know more about what I am doing than I do.
 Like, they will say that I am going to be in this mall on this day and
 sure enough I am there."
 - Tori Amos, Dew Drop Inn Tour, 17-June-1996

No

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by No » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00


Evans) thus spoke:

That's why it's called "Plug 'n' Pray" baby.
--
Nos

Thomas j. Eva

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by Thomas j. Eva » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"


>And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not
>worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating
>me...

You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ.  By any chance
are your new speakers USB speakers?  I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing
between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB.
Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem
before since you weren't using the USB port.  To fix this, try moving
the NIC to a different PCI slot.  

Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even
hooked up yet, then nevermind.  It's just that you mentioned buying
the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be
with the speakers not the soundcard.  Did you try it with your old
speakers?

To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a
regular household fan blowing into the system.  Not too high or too
close, don't want to jostle everything.  Just enough so there's a good
breeze hitting everything.  Then play and see if it still crashes like
that.  If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is
overheating.  If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto
the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX).
That should help.

If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then
it's not an overheating problem.  I would guess that it's the
motherboard then.  Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure
that the onboard sound is disabled.  To do so, start the computer and
then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to
press for setup).  This will take you into BIOS setup.  Then look for
an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound."  It may be under
"Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have.
Make sure this option is DISABLED.

You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good
sound card like the SB Live! to work.  They're not very expensive.
$100 - $200 typically.  The real problem is that it's not easy to
install.  You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.  You
could try to install it yourself.  It doesn't take a genious, just
someone who can learn as he goes.  Take it from me - a lot of people
on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to
newsgroups while your computer is in pieces.  :)

-T

Martyn Danb

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by Martyn Danb » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

True but win95 needs 8 mb of ram for itself alone


> >On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens

> >>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you
> >>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

> >Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable.

> Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs
> of RAM.

> That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so.

> -T

Ian

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by Ian » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

Have you been watching *** Theory recently ? <G>

--
Ian Parker

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