rec.autos.simulators

by **Richard Becket** » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:24:37

Guys,

Gonna need a new wheel soon, I think.

The biggest feature I have loved about my old MSFF is that the wheel is
optically encoded.

This has meant years of trouble free steering, and no pot replacements! At
last!! :-) Remember the days of the old thrustmaster wheels, where you were
replaceing pots almost monthly!!?

Anyhow, I'm considering the MOMO, but I don't want to step back into the pot
replacement days - I know the LWFF has a pot, but does the MOMO?

What other wheels are optical?

Thanks.

R.

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by **Michael Barlo** » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:37:59

I made my own wheel/pedal set and wired it up to the sound card. I've
been using the cheap 100K pots and replace them quite often, sometimes just
moments before the green falls during a league race :-). Any case, How is
the "Optical" set up? What is used and how is it used? If someone could
explain I'd like to tinker with just such a setup for the home made wheel
(and if possible, the gas, brake, and clutch).

--
Michael A. Barlow
FILSCA (www.filsca.com)

by **Larr** » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:49:07

As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

-Larry

by **Yoshihiko Minam** » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:44:12

Yep, but wheel only. pedals are using old style pots.
As I used to use it one year, its pedals were getting jumpy.

Y.Minami

by **Sebastien Tixie** » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:24:19

> I made my own wheel/pedal set and wired it up to the sound card. I've
> been using the cheap 100K pots and replace them quite often, sometimes just
> moments before the green falls during a league race :-). Any case, How is
> the "Optical" set up? What is used and how is it used? If someone could
> explain I'd like to tinker with just such a setup for the home made wheel
> (and if possible, the gas, brake, and clutch).

If you have a mouse with a ball, not the new ones with the laser stuff, open it
and you'll understand what is an optical stuff.

The thing is quit simple, there is a wheel witth hole in it at the edge. In on
side of the wheel there is a light source and at the other side there is a light
resistor, this is a resistor wich is resistance to electrecity change with the
amout of ligt it receive.

> --
> Michael A. Barlow
> FILSCA (www.filsca.com)

> > Guys,

> > Gonna need a new wheel soon, I think.

> > The biggest feature I have loved about my old MSFF is that the wheel is
> > optically encoded.

> > This has meant years of trouble free steering, and no pot replacements! At
> > last!! :-) Remember the days of the old thrustmaster wheels, where you
> were
> > replaceing pots almost monthly!!?

> > Anyhow, I'm considering the MOMO, but I don't want to step back into the
> pot
> > replacement days - I know the LWFF has a pot, but does the MOMO?

> > What other wheels are optical?

> > Thanks.

> > R.

> > --
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> > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

by **Jonny Hodgso** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:05:50

> As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

My Interact V3 is optical (although the pedals aren't).

Not the best wheel, though it does okay with a home-
-made mounting bracket (otherwise it seems designed
purely for truck sims, and other things with near-
-horizontal steering wheels!)

Jonny

by **Haqsa** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:39:49

Is that one of those ones that is designed to sit in your lap? An
interesting idea, though it looks like it could be a bit uncomfortable.
(Hmmm, how about a rumble effects wheel that sits in your lap?)

by **Jonny Hodgso** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:53:46

> Is that one of those ones that is designed to sit in your lap? An
> interesting idea, though it looks like it could be a bit uncomfortable.

Yup, it's supposed to sit either on a desk in front of
you or on the chair under your legs. The wheel adjusts
from horizontal, to about 45 degrees.

Mine attaches to a ~40 degree bracket I've cobbled
together, which pegs to my desk - thus giving me a
sensible wheel angle ;-)

Jonny

> > > As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

> > My Interact V3 is optical (although the pedals aren't).

> > Not the best wheel, though it does okay with a home-
> > -made mounting bracket (otherwise it seems designed
> > purely for truck sims, and other things with near-
> > -horizontal steering wheels!)

> > Jonny

by **Peter** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:30:41

I'd reckon if a wheel was optical it would be on the box in BIG letters, so
if there's nothing on the MOMO box I would guess it uses pots.

Still have my trusty Thrusty T2, but converted the wheel + pedals to optical
myself.
Got sick of replacing pots.

3 green LEDs, 3 resistors, 3 Light Dependent Resistors and some plastic
tube - 2 sizes so one fits inside the other - LED at far end of one tube,
LDR at near end of other tube. No maintenance for about a year and half so
far, with nearly daily GPL.

--
Peter H

GPL sucks...you in

> > > > As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

> > > My Interact V3 is optical (although the pedals aren't).

> > > Not the best wheel, though it does okay with a home-
> > > -made mounting bracket (otherwise it seems designed
> > > purely for truck sims, and other things with near-
> > > -horizontal steering wheels!)

> > > Jonny

by **Marc Collin** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:09:24

Wow...too bad all of us aren't electronics wizards...the wheel companies
would be out of business--or, they'd have to use decent parts in the first
place!!

Marc.

> I'd reckon if a wheel was optical it would be on the box in BIG letters,
so
> if there's nothing on the MOMO box I would guess it uses pots.

> Still have my trusty Thrusty T2, but converted the wheel + pedals to
optical
> myself.
> Got sick of replacing pots.

> 3 green LEDs, 3 resistors, 3 Light Dependent Resistors and some plastic
> tube - 2 sizes so one fits inside the other - LED at far end of one tube,
> LDR at near end of other tube. No maintenance for about a year and half so
> far, with nearly daily GPL.

> --
> Peter H

> GPL sucks...you in

> > > > > As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

> > > > My Interact V3 is optical (although the pedals aren't).

> > > > Not the best wheel, though it does okay with a home-
> > > > -made mounting bracket (otherwise it seems designed
> > > > purely for truck sims, and other things with near-
> > > > -horizontal steering wheels!)

> > > > Jonny

by **Will DeRiver** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:24:06

Hey,

Any way we could get some pictures of that, or DIY instructions? I'd be
curious to see that, myself.
--
- Will DeRivera
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by **Michael Barlo** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:37:22

I would like to see a picture of your setup. I'm just about to start
building my second home made controller set and would like to see the
optical system on a home made system. If you have pictures I'd appreciate
it if you could send them to me.

--
Michael A. Barlow
FILSCA (www.filsca.com)

> I'd reckon if a wheel was optical it would be on the box in BIG letters,
so
> if there's nothing on the MOMO box I would guess it uses pots.

> Still have my trusty Thrusty T2, but converted the wheel + pedals to
optical
> myself.
> Got sick of replacing pots.

> 3 green LEDs, 3 resistors, 3 Light Dependent Resistors and some plastic
> tube - 2 sizes so one fits inside the other - LED at far end of one tube,
> LDR at near end of other tube. No maintenance for about a year and half so
> far, with nearly daily GPL.

> --
> Peter H

> GPL sucks...you in

> > > > > As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

> > > > My Interact V3 is optical (although the pedals aren't).

> > > > Not the best wheel, though it does okay with a home-
> > > > -made mounting bracket (otherwise it seems designed
> > > > purely for truck sims, and other things with near-
> > > > -horizontal steering wheels!)

> > > > Jonny

by **Jonny Hodgso** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:16:43

> > 3 green LEDs, 3 resistors, 3 Light Dependent Resistors and some plastic
> > tube - 2 sizes so one fits inside the other - LED at far end of one tube,
> > LDR at near end of other tube. No maintenance for about a year and half so
> > far, with nearly daily GPL.

Just re-read that - woo, /analogue/ optical! Hadn't
thought of that option - but yeah, if you can get the
right sort of values on the LDR then why not?

Jonny

by **Peter** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:17:54

I'll see if I can borrow digital camera from work.

I also got *9]\'ed off with the ***torsion springs on the pedals which
kept breaking every 6 months or so, so made my own using compression springs
on the standard pedals. How hard would it have been for them to do it right
in the first place.

--
Peter H

GPL sucks...you in

> I would like to see a picture of your setup. I'm just about to start
> building my second home made controller set and would like to see the
> optical system on a home made system. If you have pictures I'd appreciate
> it if you could send them to me.

> --
> Michael A. Barlow
> FILSCA (www.filsca.com)

> > I'd reckon if a wheel was optical it would be on the box in BIG letters,
> so
> > if there's nothing on the MOMO box I would guess it uses pots.

> > Still have my trusty Thrusty T2, but converted the wheel + pedals to
> optical
> > myself.
> > Got sick of replacing pots.

> > 3 green LEDs, 3 resistors, 3 Light Dependent Resistors and some plastic
> > tube - 2 sizes so one fits inside the other - LED at far end of one
tube,
> > LDR at near end of other tube. No maintenance for about a year and half
so
> > far, with nearly daily GPL.

> > --
> > Peter H

> > GPL sucks...you in

> > > > > > As far as I know, the MSFFW is the only optical wheel.

> > > > > My Interact V3 is optical (although the pedals aren't).

> > > > > Not the best wheel, though it does okay with a home-
> > > > > -made mounting bracket (otherwise it seems designed
> > > > > purely for truck sims, and other things with near-
> > > > > -horizontal steering wheels!)

> > > > > Jonny

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