rec.autos.simulators

Track: NORTH CAROLINA SPEEDWAY
Date: 11/08/03

Session: Practice

      P  #  DRIVER  TIME
      1  96  Neil__C  23.945
      2  27  BOster  23.946
      3  83  grubbat  23.983
      4  48  YellowJacketT  24.031
      5  314  DaveGF  24.078
      6  7  Dick-Trickle  24.114
      7  98  LTB-Racer  24.127
      8  3  TNA Loan  24.152
      9  170  joonjoonli  24.162
      10  00  seery  24.255
      11  103  JurjenvanderLelij  24.270
      12  0   24.277
      13  86  86_k_roberts  24.299
      14  34  Fernando Deutsch  24.336
      15  318  Mitch_A  24.351
      16  42  bluestringer  24.402
      17  17  j_verschue_RAS  24.414
      18  39  jsterner  24.431
      19  04  DDodge  24.507
      20  99  Elrikk  24.517
      21  67  UweSchuerkamp  25.271
      22  2  tpaullin  25.475

Weather: Clear, 70 F, North 0 mph

Session: Qualifying

      P  #  DRIVER  TIME
      1  3  TNA Loan  23.871
      2  314  DaveGF  24.015
      3  27  BOster  24.055
      4  98  LTB-Racer  24.060
      5  48  YellowJacketT  24.064
      6  7  Dick-Trickle  24.090
      7  96  Neil__C  24.144
      8  34  Fernando Deutsch  24.173
      9  42  bluestringer  24.191
      10  39  jsterner  24.258
      11  103  JurjenvanderLelij  24.301
      12  04  DDodge  24.346
      13  318  Mitch_A  24.413
      14  17  j_verschue_RAS  24.429
      15  83  grubbat  24.482
      16  86  86_k_roberts  24.498
      17  2  tpaullin  24.531
      18  99  Elrikk  24.659
      19  67  UweSchuerkamp  24.704
      20  00  seery  24.964
      21  170  joonjoonli  --
      22  0   --
      23  0   --

Weather: Clear, 70 F, North 0 mph

Session: Happy Hour

      P  #  DRIVER  TIME
      1  48  YellowJacketT  23.990
      2  314  DaveGF  24.141
      3  00  seery  24.163
      4  96  Neil__C  24.197
      5  103  JurjenvanderLelij  24.211
      6  83  grubbat  24.223
      7  34  Fernando Deutsch  24.236
      8  98  LTB-Racer  24.260
      9  86  86_k_roberts  24.290
      10  7  Dick-Trickle  24.320
      11  318  Mitch_A  24.393
      12  3  TNA Loan  24.464
      13  42  bluestringer  24.484
      14  99  Elrikk  24.507
      15  04  DDodge  24.671
      16  2  tpaullin  24.671
      17  17  j_verschue_RAS  24.759
      18  67  UweSchuerkamp  25.320
      19  39  jsterner  25.529
      20  27  BOster  33.381

Weather: Clear, 70 F, North 0 mph

Session: Race
OFFICIAL STANDINGS

      F  S  #  DRIVER  INTERVAL  LAPS  LED  POINTS  STATUS
      1  6  7  Dick-Trickle  114.680  158  9  180  Running
      2  21  170  joonjoonli  -0.44  158  25  175  Running
      3  15  83  grubbat  -1.69  158  6  170  Running
      4  7  96  Neil__C  -6.38  158  33  165  Running
      5  11  103  JurjenvanderLelij  -7.25  158  0  155  Running
      6  8  34  Fernando Deutsch  -7.34  158  0  150  Running
      7  2  314  DaveGF  -7.64  158  0  146  Running
      8  9  42  bluestringer  -8.38  158  0  142  Running
      9  16  86  86_k_roberts  -10.61  158  8  143  Running
      10  1  3  TNA Loan  -29L  129  72*  144  Retired
      11  5  48  YellowJacketT  -40L  118  5  135  Retired
      12  4  98  LTB-Racer  -58L  100  0  127  Gearbox
      13  13  318  Mitch_A  -74L  84  0  124  Retired
      14  17  2  tpaullin  -75L  83  0  121  Retired
      15  19  67  UweSchuerkamp  -76L  82  0  118  Retired
      16  20  00  seery  -80L  78  0  115  Accident
      17  10  39  jsterner  -101L  57  0  112  Gearbox
      18  18  99  Elrikk  -101L  57  0  109  Retired
      19  12  04  DDodge  -156L  2  0  106  Ignition
      20  3  27  BOster  -157L  1  0  103  Accident
      21  14  17  j_verschue_RAS  -158L  0  0  100  Accident

Caution Flags: 7 (26 laps)
Lead Changes: 10 (7 drivers)
Weather: Clear, 70 F, North 0 mph
Pitstop Frequency: 1x

PENALTIES
      LAP  #  INFRACTION  PENALTY
      3  04  Dropping Fluid  Pit for repairs
      3  04  Smoking Engine  Pit for repairs
      12  00  Speeding in pits  Go to end of longest line
      56  99  Speeding in pits  Drive through pit lane
      57  99  Speeding in pits  Stop and go
      64  2  Speeding in pits  Go to end of longest line
      82  2  Entering closed pits  Go to end of longest line
      84  98  Passing the pacecar  Held for 33 seconds
      86  98  Passing the pacecar  Held for 35 seconds
      84  318  Passing under yellow  Held for 1 seconds
      88  98  Speeding in pits  Drive through pit lane
      115  48  Smoking Engine  Pit for repairs
      115  96  Speeding in pits  Go to end of longest line
      130  3  Entering closed pits  Go to end of longest line
      132  96  Speeding in pits  Go to end of longest line

We had one or two who didn't want to restart, so we didn't do it. On the
rare occasion that a restart is suggested, I think it might be best if we go
ahead with it if an overwhelming majority wants it during a quick "y" or "n"
poll using chat. Another reason we didn't do it (discussed using TS) is
because we thought Brian had already disconnected. We also didn't know Jan
had severe damage and would have to leave if no restart. After you both
disconnected, some of us mentioned that you two should probably try and get
on TS. It would of helped us all make our decisions whether to restart, and
I'm sure I would have done it if I'd known the two of you would be lost for
the race.

Restart requests have been very rare in RASCAR, so if something really
unusual happens on lap1, I don't see the big deal in a restart if most
agree.

My race was difficult due to the fact that early in the race I was tapped
from behind and hit the wall which caused some engine damage. I was about
10mph off the pace for most of the race. Each pit repair helped me a little,
and by the end of the race I was a bit faster. 7th wasn't too bad
considering how my car was running.

TS has been a great addition, but today we had our first problem with it.
There was too much chatting on TS at times, and it cost me while pitting. I
couldn't hear a word my crew chief was saying during a pit. I couldn't hear
if the car was still being repaired, or if I was told to "go, go, go"
because of the talking. I ended up leaving the pits earlier than I had to,
and it surely cost me in the following green laps. I also didn't hear the
message to get on the inside line, and I think it cost Mitch a penalty. He
came up from way back right as we were about to go green, and passed me. I
definitely should of known where to be without the hearing the message, but
there were a lot of things going on and if I had heard the message, I would
of been in the right spot. Never made that mistake before. I'm not even sure
I heard the message saying we were going green.

Not a big deal, but we just need to edit ourselves a bit onTS.

David G Fisher

Grub, I got caught on pit road when the second caution came out. I had just
pulled in and the flag came out. I finally got back on the lead lap with
about 25 to go. Made my way to 4th, then someone let the dogs loose and we
were all looking for the bone. There was some really good cars and fine
racing at the end.  Me and the 103 touched on the last lap and I slid up
into the wall finishing 8th. Nice racing and a lot of fun. Congrats to the
top three.

bluestringer

You can alter the sound levels Dave - first race I did with TS my spotter
was louder than TS, so I missed out chat messages. This race I had TS
volume cranked up and had to be listen carefully to my spotter cause I
could barely hear him.

I agree, TS is a great addition, but makes it harder to concentrate
sometimes.
I had an incident with Larry because of it. I was running several laps on
his tail, when he asked if I wanted to pass, and that I could pass next
corner. He slowed down on the racing line going into the corner, but I
wasnt prepared to change my line and ended up punting him. Real sorry
again Larry :(
Apologies to bluestringer as well for sending you in the wall last corner
last lap. I didnt hear/feel a thing and was holding my line but in my
replay I can see you suddenly flying sideways :(
Real shame cause we had some very nice close racing with 4 cars that last
couple laps.

Cheers, jurjen

No problem Jurjen. IMO, it was just hard racing, or may have been a warp
thing. I haven't seen the replay, but I may have pinched you down a bit. I
had wore my tires out battling with Fernando and Neil. Anyway, that was some
great racing at the end.

bluestringer

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Between the wad of steel I had left, the lost gears, down a cylinder or two
and the seemingly never-ending BF's I still don't understand, I decided to
pack up the trailer and head home early.

-Larry

You did suprise me a little bit in that corner, though :)  Given how the
last couple of turns went, I thought going under would be ok.  I didn't
really expect you to come down to the apex like you did.  I tried to get out
of there but I had too much fender under ya.

Again, sorry :)

-Larry

My race was difficult due to the fact that early in the race I was tapped
from behind and hit the wall which caused some engine damage. I was about
10mph off the pace for most of the race. Each pit repair helped me a little,
and by the end of the race I was a bit faster. 7th wasn't too bad
considering how my car was running.

-Larry

I practiced a _lot_ for that race.  Even though I didn't qualify well for
the main, I thought I had a real strong chance of winning if I could stay
out of trouble.  Unfortunately, it wasn't meant to be.  There's always next
week!

I am suprised I won the practice race by 7+ seconds.  I thought it was going
to be closer than that!

Durning my many hours of practice last week, I learned that you race that
track with your ears and your right foot, keeping the steering out of it as
much as possible.  I also learned that you give up a bunch in 1 and 2 to
save the tires, and use 3 and 4 to make up for it.

To me, that was the secret.

-Larry

Also, sorry to Jan for not acknowledging your apology, I was pretty
steamed and was trying to sort it all out before I responded and
decided I needed to cool down before typing anything.  You didn't need
to apologize though, you were as much, if not more, a victim of the
whole thing than I was.

Brian Oster

.  I also learned that you give up a bunch in 1 and 2 to