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The current release date actually for N3 is Fall of 99.  But it could change
as always... especially if they get some other titles on the market using
the old game engine  (the rumored N2000 or Nascar Legends).

I guess E3 will create a more accurate release date.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Tell us what you heard about the rumors, please! That NASCAR Legends sounds

be better.

What would N2000 improve on from NR1999?

Just askin'......

"Just when I think you have said the stupidest thing
I have ever heard...you keep talking." - Hank Hill
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We only know that there is a team creating another thing at Papyrus than N3,
that's official.  David Matson and his team is working on another thing. The
N2000/NLegends is only a rumor.  But I wouldn't be surprised if Sierra
pushed them to make another title of the (sorry but the term is true) old
game engine.  It could be a great product, still.

We got spoiled by GPL ;-)

-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Sorry to be so uninformed, but what is E3?

No hints of what it is?

1) Cart 3 - this is probably the most likely since there's a LOT more
young people that are familiar with CART than there are young people
familiar with legendary names and tracks from Nascar's past.  That, and
the fact that ICR2 is getting rather long in the tooth, and their license
for CART is near expiration.

2) Nascar Legends - From a business standpoint, I don't see how this
would sell very well.  Bigger, slower cars on pretty much the same tracks
we have now.  I would personally buy it in a heartbeat, but after driving
N3, I don't know if even the most die-hard Nascar fans would find it much
of a challenge or as interesting.  The only real benefit for most folks
in getting this package would be that there's an outside chance that the
tracks could be added to N3...

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That I can agree with...

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ronny

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I know you would had wrote this ;-)   And I agree with you.  Im no business
man, but if they still reuse the old game engine, I know many people who
will just drop and not buy it.  But the % is very low compared to the mass
market that just buys any title that has the Nascar name on it.

Already game reviewers were trashing Papyrus for NR99, so I can't see how
the people like us in r.a.s. or the *** magazines and website will see
another game based on the old game engine. I mean cmon do you still see
titles based on the Build game engine for FPS ? ;-)

I just do not like the idea of adding and adding and adding stuff to what
6year old game engine ? And please NOBODY tells me Im spreading false
rumors.  If Papyrus didn't thought that their title development is something
like National Security. we WOULDN'T be doing such a thing.  Their fault, not
ours.

-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

They said in an Intervew that the new CART title was being considered in the
future, but no plans yet. So you can cross this one.  They said they weren't
working on this.  Sorry but they aren't ;(

But on another point..  it would be Nascar Legends using the OLD game
engine. Not the GPL game engine, the OLD one.  Rumors say that Sierra were
very happy about the NR99 sales (it did very well) and they still want to
push another title using the old game engine. Im very sad.. but that's the
state of the *** industry :(

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

:) Dennis

Really!  There's about 200000 NASCAR games out there and only 2 or 3 decent
CART games around (if you consider CART Precision Racing decent, I mean, hell,
the old Papyrus 1ndy 500 game is more realistic than CPR!).

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited

Well I agree. And even in the above example, the Build games are
totally 3rd-party. 3D Realms are working on the next-generation Duke
Nukem using the Unreal engine.

Joe

        Tentative?! More like fantasy!

"Gunner"
Owner of N1, N2, Nas50th and NR99.  Anxiously awaiting NR3.  Sceptical
of NR Legends (but I NEVER would've thought they'd do a '67 Indy Car
sim either!!)