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SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

DarDANe]

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by DarDANe] » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

There's a lot of negative talk about GP3 going on and frankly, Im
surprised. But, I haven't played it yet... have to wait till tonight.

Okay, so we know GPL is the king kong but until GP3 came out all the
columns and mags in the UK still rate GP2 as one of the best if not the
best (if they dont like gpl) racing sim ever.......(never played that
either myself)

so I ask, how is it that GP3 is so bad. At the very least, it must be as
good as, if not  a tiny bit better than GP2 so therefore it must rank
better than most of the other driving games and certainly all the F1
attempts seen in teh last few years....

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Jan Verschuere

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Well, it is and GP2 was good in it's day (1996), but now, medio 2000, a
slightly updated version just doesn't cut it as a racing sim anymore. I
don't know why GP2 has stayed on top of those lists for so long as both GPL
and MGPRS2 (to name but two) are vastly superior, IMO.

Jan.
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Simon Brow

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Simon Brow » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I suppose largely because GP3 isn't as impressive now as GP2 was when it
came out.  GP2 was state-of-the-art, just about the best looking and most
realistic racing sim money could buy when it came out.  GP3 is still fun,
but it hasn't reached those standards.  Basically there are games out there
with better physics, better AI, better graphics and the GP series seems to
have stood still.


Greg Cisk

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I think *YOU* will be very happy with the game.

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Patrick van der Sluij

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Patrick van der Sluij » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

When you want a true sim, choose GPL. When you want instant fun, which
appeals  to the mayority of people (especially novice drivers) choose GP3.

Have you seen the sales figures of GPL, Jan. Ok then you know why...
Yep it's sad but it's true...

Patrick
(long time no see)



Jan Verschuere

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Yes, alarming isn't it? -But then again I'm not claiming to be the guardian
of good taste with regard to racing sims. I was just attempting to explain
where the negative reactions came from.

BTW: I wouldn't put GP3 in the "instant fun" category either... even for
novice drivers.

"Long time no see"... does that mean we met before? (memory is a usefull
thing, however in my case it throws up more GPF's than Windows ;-)).

Jan.
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Patrick van der Sluijs wrote...

Jeff Vince

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Jeff Vince » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00



   It depends on who is reviewing it.  The GP series are sims for the
masses, they cut a few corners on reality to make an enjoyable
experience for your average gamer.  It's the type of game we need to
get people into sim racing in the first place.

   GPL is a hard-core sim, which satisfies the sim-fanatics that
gather here.  But it's a bit much for newbies, casual gamers, and most
reviewers to get into.  Those who have become accustomed to the
reality of GPL don't find much satifaction in GP3.  Also, many
expected some substantial improvements to GP3 (not just weather and
updated graphics) to keep up with the competition, thus the
disappointment.

   Each has its place, but they're just at philosophically opposite
ends of the genre.

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Richard G Cleg

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Richard G Cleg » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

:    GPL is a hard-core sim, which satisfies the sim-fanatics that
: gather here.  But it's a bit much for newbies, casual gamers, and most
: reviewers to get into.  Those who have become accustomed to the
: reality of GPL don't find much satifaction in GP3.  Also, many
: expected some substantial improvements to GP3 (not just weather and
: updated graphics) to keep up with the competition, thus the
: disappointment.

:    Each has its place, but they're just at philosophically opposite
: ends of the genre.

  Oh cmon - whatever you say about GP3, it's more accurate on the sim
end than most.  You can argue the toss about whether it's more or less
sim than f1-2000, or MGPRS or SCGT but in the end, it's going to end up
being one of the five most "sim" games in anyone's book.  Compare it
with NFS:PU - which is at the game end of the genre

--
Richard G. Clegg       Only the mind is waving
    Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
      Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
     UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Jeff Vince

SO IF GP3 is CRAP......

by Jeff Vince » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00



>:    GPL is a hard-core sim, which satisfies the sim-fanatics that
>: gather here.  But it's a bit much for newbies, casual gamers, and most
>: reviewers to get into.  Those who have become accustomed to the
>: reality of GPL don't find much satifaction in GP3.  Also, many
>: expected some substantial improvements to GP3 (not just weather and
>: updated graphics) to keep up with the competition, thus the
>: disappointment.

>:    Each has its place, but they're just at philosophically opposite
>: ends of the genre.

>  Oh cmon - whatever you say about GP3, it's more accurate on the sim
>end than most.  You can argue the toss about whether it's more or less
>sim than f1-2000, or MGPRS or SCGT but in the end, it's going to end up
>being one of the five most "sim" games in anyone's book.  Compare it
>with NFS:PU - which is at the game end of the genre

Richard,

   I figured someone wasn't going to understand that... :)  The genre
I'm refering to is racing simulations (versus the wider genre of sim
through arcade racing games).  

   It could be worse, I was going to say something like "opposite ends
of the quality sim genre" (meaning different philosophies of doing a
high quality sim), but then I'm sure someone would think I'm slagging
GP3 for being a ***sim.  :)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark


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