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Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

B.J. Vost

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by B.J. Vost » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00




> >writes
> >>All I have to say is that the first game publisher to actually realize
> >>that most of the domestic market wouldn't give a game like GP2 a second
> >>thought once a GOOD drag racing sim came out stands to make a LOT of
> >>money.

> >"Most" of the domestic market?! Really?

> >I may be in the UK, but even from here I would have thought drag racing
> >is virtually dictionary definition of "niche". I'm not a particular
> >NASCAR fan (the sport), but I enjoy running NASCAR because it's fun to
> >drive - loose, door-to-door, pitstops. You know - "driving".

> As I understand it, the order of popularity of racing in the US is
> 1 NASCAR
> 2 NHRA racing (drag racing)
> 3 Indycar

> An average person in the US has no idea what "F1" is, and "Indycar"
> just means the Indy500.

> But  drag racing sim... I'm not knowledgable about drag racing, but I
> could imagine a sim being done well, and it being popular here. It
> would have almost no relation to the sorts of things GP2, ICR2, or
> NASCAR are about- It would probably have to be intensely graphics and
> audio oriented. It would be an interesting challenge to make- no need
> to worry about AI, no huge, meandering tracks to digitize and fit in
> to memory. Just fantastic graphics speed for a short time, and trying
> to convey accelleration to the user- tough.

> All in all, it would probably share more programming in common with
> some of the bowling sims that are pretty popular here, than with
> another racing sim.

Really? Drag racing more popular than Indycar?  I'd have to disagree.  I
mean, on TV does drag racing get live coverage or do they even have
races on a major network ( ABC, CBS, NBC )?  I do agree F1 means nothing
to most Americans.  I'd care more if Micheal S. ( Can't spell his last
name ) could finish a race.
--
B.J.

Dole/Kemp in '96!
I hate the Macarena!
Kevin Earl

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Kevin Earl » Fri, 23 Aug 1996 04:00:00

That's what I've heard too. NASCAR is first, closely followed by NHRA.
NASCAR also holds more races (31 or so) than NHRA (20 or so), but NHRA runs
in more of the country than NASCAR,  which helps to make the fan base much
more diverse. And, trust me, the NHRA crowds I've seen live are just as
diverse as any I've seen on tv at a NASCAR race.

ABC shows some races a week or two later. The final rounds of some major
national races (U.S. Nationals, etc.) are shown live on TNN. Drag racing
doesn't lend itself well to live TV coverage, as there is about 90 minutes
between the pro rounds and if someone blows an engine and oils the track
down, you get to watch 30-45 minutes of the Safety Safari in action
cleaning the track.

To me, F1 is just a key on my keyboard.

Doesn't everyone?

Kevin

Mark Watkin

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Mark Watkin » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00

That would be great!!! Another cool idea would be to revisit the concept of
the program STREET ROD which started you out with $1200 and let you buy a
used car through the paper and soup it up and race it on the streets.
Chevelles, Talladegas, Vettes etc. Would be a really cool concept on
Hawaii; challenging people to drags for their pink slips




> : Or how about a simulation of the Ford GT40's, MKII's and Cobras
> : contesting the Ferraris and Porsches for the GT and Prototype
> : Championships in the mid 60's.  They ran endurance races on many of
these
> : tracks.

Tom Pole

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Tom Pole » Fri, 30 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Street Rod II was AWESOME! An update to that concept using today's
graphics and processor speed would be great. When you raced your
car in Street Rod, you were racing "your" own car - because
you had pieced it together yourself. And because of "aging"
of parts and equipment, no two cars were ever alike.

Modem/multiplayer play would let competitors brag about their cars -
and then pit them against one another.


> That would be great!!! Another cool idea would be to revisit the concept of
> the program STREET ROD which started you out with $1200 and let you buy a
> used car through the paper and soup it up and race it on the streets.
> Chevelles, Talladegas, Vettes etc. Would be a really cool concept on
> Hawaii; challenging people to drags for their pink slips




> > : Or how about a simulation of the Ford GT40's, MKII's and Cobras
> > : contesting the Ferraris and Porsches for the GT and Prototype
> > : Championships in the mid 60's.  They ran endurance races on many of
> these
> > : tracks.

Whatbra

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Whatbra » Wed, 04 Sep 1996 04:00:00



>Street Rod II was AWESOME! An update to that concept using today's
>graphics and processor speed would be great. When you raced your
>car in Street Rod, you were racing "your" own car - because
>you had pieced it together yourself. And because of "aging"
>of parts and equipment, no two cars were ever alike.

>Modem/multiplayer play would let competitors brag about their cars -
>and then pit them against one another.

And with a T2...heaven. Just imagine me in my Big block Dodge Dart against
your Vette i would kill you in a drag race but throw a corner in there ala
a street race then look out! me thinks that if you could make the game
sound good and look like Need for Speed you would have a best seller. Road
and Track got behind NFS so how about one of the Musclecar or Hot Rod mags
getting into this idea.

Gene

Double Clut

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Double Clut » Sat, 07 Sep 1996 04:00:00



: : Or how about a simulation of the Ford GT40's, MKII's and Cobras
: : contesting the Ferraris and Porsches for the GT and Prototype
: : Championships in the mid 60's.  They ran endurance races on many of these
: : tracks.

: Oh, yes please, could you please.  These were the cars that I fell in
: love with when I first got hooked on racing.  Talk about cool cars.
: I've always wanted a Ford GT40 or MKII.  Putting one in a sim is the
: closest I'll ever come to owning one.  

: Hope the above doesn't date me too much ;-)

I would kill for an SCCA Trans-Am sim. Imagine driving George Follmer's
schoolbus-yellow Boss 302, or Mark Donahue's Penske Z28, or an AAR
'Cuda.

JP

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by JP » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00




>: : Or how about a simulation of the Ford GT40's, MKII's and Cobras
>: : contesting the Ferraris and Porsches for the GT and Prototype
>: : Championships in the mid 60's.  They ran endurance races on many of these
>: : tracks.

>: Oh, yes please, could you please.  These were the cars that I fell in
>: love with when I first got hooked on racing.  Talk about cool cars.
>: I've always wanted a Ford GT40 or MKII.  Putting one in a sim is the
>: closest I'll ever come to owning one.  

>: Hope the above doesn't date me too much ;-)

>I would kill for an SCCA Trans-Am sim. Imagine driving George Follmer's
>schoolbus-yellow Boss 302, or Mark Donahue's Penske Z28, or an AAR
>'Cuda.

I just received a card in the mail from Papyrus for a game called Road Rash.
It's a motorcycle/combat game that has graphics similiar to the type used
in NFS. Is this something just heard of, or has this been in discussion for
awhile? Also, is it a given that their next simulation will be on 4 tires..?
Just curious
Typho

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Typho » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

I don't know if it's been discussed, but EA's "Road Rash" is a
straight-up *arcade* racer co-developed by Papyrus. Native Win95,
excellent graphics, multiplayer capabilities, (pretty fun) but very
"arcade"-like, NOT a simulator. (NFS is a better racing sim than RR).

No***pit view, no rear-view mirrors, easy recovery from accidents.
I believe there is a demo available...

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> I just received a card in the mail from Papyrus for a game called Road Rash.
> It's a motorcycle/combat game that has graphics similiar to the type used
> in NFS. Is this something just heard of, or has this been in discussion for
> awhile? Also, is it a given that their next simulation will be on 4 tires..?
> Just curious

'John' Joao Sil

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by 'John' Joao Sil » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00


>I just received a card in the mail from Papyrus for a game called Road Rash.
>It's a motorcycle/combat game that has graphics similiar to the type used
>in NFS. Is this something just heard of, or has this been in discussion for
>awhile? Also, is it a given that their next simulation will be on 4 tires..?
>Just curious

I think Papyrus did the RoadRash conversion from console to the PC for
Elecronic Arts the same company that put out NFS.

You can find a Win95 playable demo of roadrash at

http://www.ea.com/eastudios/roadrash/html/winhome.html

Not bad for an arcade game, I do wish the view was from behind the throttle
and not from behind the driver. It's worth a look.

Cheers.

--John
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  John (Joao) Silva
  http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jsilva
  Seattle, Washington USA.

Double Clutc

Papyrus' future game: (I have a good idea on what it nay be.

by Double Clutc » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00


> I just received a card in the mail from Papyrus for a game called Road Rash.
> It's a motorcycle/combat game that has graphics similiar to the type used
> in NFS. Is this something just heard of, or has this been in discussion for
> awhile? Also, is it a given that their next simulation will be on 4 tires..?
> Just curious

Papy employees (I forget who) have mentioned the Road Rash conversion
before, i'm looking forward to it as it's one of my favorite Sega Genesis
games.

There's also been discussion about what the next auto sim they'll put
out will be. IIRC, the official comment was that they're working on 3 games
now but can't say what they are.  

-Mike, who is finding it harder and harder to wait for NASCAR 2


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