rec.autos.simulators

I just have to relate this experience:

Setting up Nascar v. 1.21 and ICR2 v. 1.0

Last night I helped a friend set up Nascar and ICR2 on a new AT&T
Pentium  100 This system has an S3 video chip and 1M DRAM on the
mother board.  (you can add 1M more) It also has an incredibly,
insanely stupid, combo fax-modem and sound card.

Of course auto-detect didn't work. After some head scratching, I
called the tech support line. (Big Mistake)

This moron at NCR tech support promised me that he had unsuccessfully
tried to help several others set up these games. He said "this card is
for windows 95 only, we don't support dos or make any promises that
the card will work for dos applications.

pc's now that don't officially support DOS.

Cut to the chase. Here's how I made the SOB work.

Restart the computer.
hold down F8
choose " command prompt only"
change to Nascar or ICR2 dir
run setup, use manual configuration
for this particular system I used:
digital sound to Soundblaster 8 stereo
port 220, IRQ 5, DMA 1      
midi (Nascar only) port 388, IRQ 9

this works!  

Unfortunately there is no way to make this piece of Shi_ win-modem
work with a DOS game. So, we can't race each other till he buys a new
modem.

TO avoid  having to press f8 all the time you can either load and use
the tweak GUI program from the WIN95 power toys or edit your msdos.sys
file (if you like doing things the hard way), or you can create a
shortcut to the nascar.exe or indycar.exe and edit a custom config.sys
and autoexec.bat that are empty except for a mouse driver and maybe to
load dos high.

My original post clearly stated that I was helping a friend. You
snipped that part. Before you go spouting off you ought to read the
article.

Who gives a shit? I do, you punk.
If I knew who you were, I'd kick your ass.

As for the boot disk, thanks for the insult. If you were not such an
ass you wouldn't assume so stupidly what I do or don't know.

I'm sorry if I offended you but most of what ii said was definetly
taken out of context( I know it's hard to tell someone's tone of voice
in writing)

I appologize for acting like a jerk in your eyes.

I did read the whole article and yes it is true that you said you were
helping a friend.

Papyrus does say however that in the manual and in this newsgroup
hundreds of times that it is not a windows game.  I know I could  have
left that alone but i couldn't resist.  Yes it does sometimes work and
what I meant by "who give's a shit if you can" did not mean you
specifically but whether or not it can be done.  No matter what
though,
it will not run as good in windows because windows is still running in
one way or another. So the "who give's a shit" comment was not
directed to you.  The rest of the stuff I said was not meant to offend
or insult you but i can see that after i offended you , the rest was
just icing i guess.

again Matt, I'm sorry i pissed you off

Mike

Mike, your appology is accepted. The point I want to explain is that I
know this is not a windows game. I was lamenting the fact that these
stupid new multipurpose cards that are apparently designed to work
primarily in Windows are difficult to set up for DOS games (in DOS) or
Win95's MS-DOS mode (which is really DOS 7.0). Don't confuse Win95's
MS-DOS mode with dos in a window in Win95. They are two really
different animals. DOS-mode is like old DOS, it's not inside Windows.
DOS in a window won't run any game very well. Except maybe on a 200mhz
pentium.
Then it would probably perform like a 100mhz.

Matt Howell