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New track in the making

Stephen Ferguso

New track in the making

by Stephen Ferguso » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Bruce, as you are so picky about spelling, could you at least spell the
fellow's name properly?

Stephen (who is not a Steven, not a Stephan, not a Stefan etc.)


> Thanks for the response, Martin.  I agree (and have commented just now in
> another post) that the external shots tend to "warp" the actual width. If
it
> looks okay from the driver's viewpoint then that's what really matters.

> Will there be AI included for off-line racing or is this simply for VROC?

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------




Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Sure, Stevo, give me a keyboard or the combination for the ASCII character
at the start of Martin's name and I'd be happy to.
In the meantime I'll Anglicise it and use "Martin".

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Bruce, as you are so picky about spelling, could you at least spell the
> fellow's name properly?

> Stephen (who is not a Steven, not a Stephan, not a Stefan etc.)



> > Thanks for the response, Martin.  I agree (and have commented just now
in
> > another post) that the external shots tend to "warp" the actual width.
If
> it
> > looks okay from the driver's viewpoint then that's what really matters.

> > Will there be AI included for off-line racing or is this simply for
VROC?

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------



> > > The strange thing is, the track has the same width all along the
track.
> So
> > > all screenshots are with a trackwidth set to 11 metres. And I agree it
> > > looks very wide on that screenshot, but I can assure you, you need all
> the
> > > tarmac there is :-) Screenshots can do funny stuff, as can be
concluded
> > > from the fact that the width looks very different on the pics.
> > > Gplss10 is taken at the same spot as Gplss11, and I'd rather suggest
> > taking
> > > the incar/f10 shots as guideline than the external camera's (with
detial
> > > settings, different carshapes etc). You think it looks too wide there
as
> > > well?

> > > Ofcourse the main objective of making a track, is making something
that
> > > people enjoy racing on. So "fun" (playablity) is in some cases
something
> > > that has to be set against historical accuracy. No point making a
track
> > > that is soo difficult it's barely driven on VROC.

> > > Thanks for your encouragement and critical notes, I'll take it into
> > > consideration.
> > > If you have more comments please express them (in a way that's
> > > constructivly usable).

> > > Martijn

> > > > > After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in the
> > > > MotorSport
> > > > > article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the width
of
> > the
> > > > > track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's almost
the
> > > width
> > > > > of a 4-lane highway!

> > > > It looked much too wide on gplss11.jpg, but the road looked the
right
> > > width
> > > > along the river... so I'm not making my mind up yet.  It might be
the
> > > best
> > > > track ever for GPL if it's done well.  And yes, better than the
'Ring.

Stephen Ferguso

New track in the making

by Stephen Ferguso » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Brucie, if you look down in his note, you will see that he writes it (in
ASCII characters, you old curmudgeon, you!) Martijn.  I was referring to the
missing "j".  ***y Brits and Aussies... always Anglicising everything :-)

Stephen


> Sure, Stevo, give me a keyboard or the combination for the ASCII character
> at the start of Martin's name and I'd be happy to.
> In the meantime I'll Anglicise it and use "Martin".

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------



> > Bruce, as you are so picky about spelling, could you at least spell the
> > fellow's name properly?

> > Stephen (who is not a Steven, not a Stephan, not a Stefan etc.)



> > > Thanks for the response, Martin.  I agree (and have commented just now
> in
> > > another post) that the external shots tend to "warp" the actual width.
> If
> > it
> > > looks okay from the driver's viewpoint then that's what really
matters.

> > > Will there be AI included for off-line racing or is this simply for
> VROC?

> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > ---------------------------



> > > > The strange thing is, the track has the same width all along the
> track.
> > So
> > > > all screenshots are with a trackwidth set to 11 metres. And I agree
it
> > > > looks very wide on that screenshot, but I can assure you, you need
all
> > the
> > > > tarmac there is :-) Screenshots can do funny stuff, as can be
> concluded
> > > > from the fact that the width looks very different on the pics.
> > > > Gplss10 is taken at the same spot as Gplss11, and I'd rather suggest
> > > taking
> > > > the incar/f10 shots as guideline than the external camera's (with
> detial
> > > > settings, different carshapes etc). You think it looks too wide
there
> as
> > > > well?

> > > > Ofcourse the main objective of making a track, is making something
> that
> > > > people enjoy racing on. So "fun" (playablity) is in some cases
> something
> > > > that has to be set against historical accuracy. No point making a
> track
> > > > that is soo difficult it's barely driven on VROC.

> > > > Thanks for your encouragement and critical notes, I'll take it into
> > > > consideration.
> > > > If you have more comments please express them (in a way that's
> > > > constructivly usable).

> > > > Martijn

> > > > > > After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in the
> > > > > MotorSport
> > > > > > article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the width
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's almost
> the
> > > > width
> > > > > > of a 4-lane highway!

> > > > > It looked much too wide on gplss11.jpg, but the road looked the
> right
> > > > width
> > > > > along the river... so I'm not making my mind up yet.  It might be
> the
> > > > best
> > > > > track ever for GPL if it's done well.  And yes, better than the
> 'Ring.

Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Ohhh! Sorry...yes, of course! I missed that blasted 'j'!
Thanks, Stephen.  Much obliged, mate. :-)

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Brucie, if you look down in his note, you will see that he writes it (in
> ASCII characters, you old curmudgeon, you!) Martijn.  I was referring to
the
> missing "j".  ***y Brits and Aussies... always Anglicising everything
:-)

> Stephen



> > Sure, Stevo, give me a keyboard or the combination for the ASCII
character
> > at the start of Martin's name and I'd be happy to.
> > In the meantime I'll Anglicise it and use "Martin".

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------



> > > Bruce, as you are so picky about spelling, could you at least spell
the
> > > fellow's name properly?

> > > Stephen (who is not a Steven, not a Stephan, not a Stefan etc.)



> > > > Thanks for the response, Martin.  I agree (and have commented just
now
> > in
> > > > another post) that the external shots tend to "warp" the actual
width.
> > If
> > > it
> > > > looks okay from the driver's viewpoint then that's what really
> matters.

> > > > Will there be AI included for off-line racing or is this simply for
> > VROC?

> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > ---------------------------



> > > > > The strange thing is, the track has the same width all along the
> > track.
> > > So
> > > > > all screenshots are with a trackwidth set to 11 metres. And I
agree
> it
> > > > > looks very wide on that screenshot, but I can assure you, you need
> all
> > > the
> > > > > tarmac there is :-) Screenshots can do funny stuff, as can be
> > concluded
> > > > > from the fact that the width looks very different on the pics.
> > > > > Gplss10 is taken at the same spot as Gplss11, and I'd rather
suggest
> > > > taking
> > > > > the incar/f10 shots as guideline than the external camera's (with
> > detial
> > > > > settings, different carshapes etc). You think it looks too wide
> there
> > as
> > > > > well?

> > > > > Ofcourse the main objective of making a track, is making something
> > that
> > > > > people enjoy racing on. So "fun" (playablity) is in some cases
> > something
> > > > > that has to be set against historical accuracy. No point making a
> > track
> > > > > that is soo difficult it's barely driven on VROC.

> > > > > Thanks for your encouragement and critical notes, I'll take it
into
> > > > > consideration.
> > > > > If you have more comments please express them (in a way that's
> > > > > constructivly usable).

> > > > > Martijn

> > > > > > > After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in
the
> > > > > > MotorSport
> > > > > > > article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the
width
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's
almost
> > the
> > > > > width
> > > > > > > of a 4-lane highway!

> > > > > > It looked much too wide on gplss11.jpg, but the road looked the
> > right
> > > > > width
> > > > > > along the river... so I'm not making my mind up yet.  It might
be
> > the
> > > > > best
> > > > > > track ever for GPL if it's done well.  And yes, better than the
> > 'Ring.

Laurens de Jon

New track in the making

by Laurens de Jon » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Bruce, you could've claimed you were looking for the IJ-diphtong
on your keyboard, didn't find it and went with "Martin" for this
reason.

But then you'd have started the well-known but off-topic thread
of whether or not the Dutch IJ is a letter, a diphtong, or simply
two letters.

Or (*looks at newsgroup members*) maybe not.

-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

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Martin D. Pa

New track in the making

by Martin D. Pa » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:37:52 +0200, "Stephen Ferguson"

<grin> Don't lump Brits and Aussies together! Particularly if the
word 'cricket' is in the same sentence...

Martin D. Pay
A Brit. Not an Aussie. And not a Whingeing Pom, either...  ^_^

Ace

New track in the making

by Ace » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, the Aussies are nothing but a bunch of pie throwers and sloggers :-)
--
-Ace-


<snipped>

Graeme Nas

New track in the making

by Graeme Nas » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

As well as being one of the kings of GP2 Track Editing... I taught him
everything he knows, by the way... :-)

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash

Graeme Nas

New track in the making

by Graeme Nas » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Take a look at some GP2 track pages and Martijn's name should be pretty
prominent :-)

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash


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