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New track in the making

Kev

New track in the making

by Kev » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, what we also need is for someone to write a patch that has the add
on tracks in the 'best laps' section.

Kev


> SOLITUDE!!!! Great work so far!
> I hope that it's far from finished because textures don't look that good
> yet. (Oh boy I'm complaining again)
> But I wonder how he developed it... Did he create his own track editor too?
> Let's hope he makes it available for download...



> > I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~m.keizer/pics/

> > Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
> > a blast!!
> > And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
> > have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
> > for a banked Monza :)

> > Andre

Gradee

New track in the making

by Gradee » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Martijn making it? Believe me, it will rock!

Andre Warring

New track in the making

by Andre Warring » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:25:50 +0100, "Gradee \"The BoDee\" Ventura"




>> I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

>> http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

>> Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
>> a blast!!
>> And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
>> have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
>> for a banked Monza :)

>Martijn making it? Believe me, it will rock!

Who is he? Did he make other things for GPL or other sims?
Or is he a mysterie man like Noonan?

Andre

μartij

New track in the making

by μartij » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00

C'mon Andre!

Its not that hard to figure out! just remove the /pics and youll get to a
homepage with some other works and an email address. What more do you
want??



> >> I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

> >> http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

> >> Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
> >> a blast!!
> >> And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
> >> have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
> >> for a banked Monza :)

> >Martijn making it? Believe me, it will rock!

> Who is he? Did he make other things for GPL or other sims?
> Or is he a mysterie man like Noonan?

> Andre

GraDe

New track in the making

by GraDe » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00


> C'mon Andre!

> Its not that hard to figure out! just remove the /pics and youll get to a
> homepage with some other works and an email address. What more do you
> want??

hehe, looks cool though Martijn, can you really "get air" like one of those
screenies?
Dave Henri

New track in the making

by Dave Henri » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00

  When I first looked at the track map, I thought:
'it's just the Hockenheim Ring run backwards with a few esses thrown in the
back straight.'  But after looking at the screen shots, WOW!  Good work lad.
Keep it up, we will be looking forward to the track's release...
  oh...and Goy,   get after Jan to convert this for TPTCC use.   YOWSA!
dave henrie


> > If you have more comments please express them (in a way that's
> > constructivly usable).

> Am I to understand that you don't want a pat on the back ? :-)

> I'm giving you one anyway, good job, looks great, can't wait to try it

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

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Andre Warring

New track in the making

by Andre Warring » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Eh.. I wanna know how you made the track :)

Andre



>> >> I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

>> >> http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

>> >> Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
>> >> a blast!!
>> >> And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
>> >> have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
>> >> for a banked Monza :)

>> >Martijn making it? Believe me, it will rock!

>> Who is he? Did he make other things for GPL or other sims?
>> Or is he a mysterie man like Noonan?

>> Andre

Kirk Lan

New track in the making

by Kirk Lan » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Uh...any reasons I'm not getting into the page???

--
Kirk Lane


Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I'll do a scan tonight Tim (it's now 7:30 AM Wednesday) and will pop them on
my site, then put the URL in here under a new thread. Just look for
"Solitude" in the subject.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Can you put those article pictures online? Or can I find them on the web
> somewhere?



> > After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in the
> MotorSport
> > article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the width of the
> > track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's almost the
width
> > of a 4-lane highway!
> > Have a look at this shot and see if you feel the same:-
> > http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/gplss11.jpg

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------



> > > SOLITUDE!!!! Great work so far!
> > > I hope that it's far from finished because textures don't look that
good
> > > yet. (Oh boy I'm complaining again)
> > > But I wonder how he developed it... Did he create his own track editor
> > too?
> > > Let's hope he makes it available for download...



> > > > I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

> > > > http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

> > > > Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to
be
> > > > a blast!!
> > > > And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now
we
> > > > have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
> > > > for a banked Monza :)

> > > > Andre

Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Don't take my comment the wrong way, please!
I know that exterior shots in GPL replays always make the cars look small
and/or the track wide.  I'd really like to believe that, from the driver's
view, the road is as it should be.

Whichever way it ends up.....done properly this will be a lovely circuit to
add to GPL.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Nono Bruce, you don't understand! Martijn, the creator of the track,
> is also testing the new GPLEA RC carset. <g>

> Remco


> >After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in the
MotorSport
> >article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the width of the
> >track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's almost the
width
> >of a 4-lane highway!
> >Have a look at this shot and see if you feel the same:-
> >http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/gplss11.jpg



> >> SOLITUDE!!!! Great work so far!
> >> I hope that it's far from finished because textures don't look that
good
> >> yet. (Oh boy I'm complaining again)
> >> But I wonder how he developed it... Did he create his own track editor
> >too?
> >> Let's hope he makes it available for download...



> >> > I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

> >> > http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

> >> > Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
> >> > a blast!!
> >> > And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
> >> > have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
> >> > for a banked Monza :)

Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the response, Martin.  I agree (and have commented just now in
another post) that the external shots tend to "warp" the actual width. If it
looks okay from the driver's viewpoint then that's what really matters.

Will there be AI included for off-line racing or is this simply for VROC?

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> The strange thing is, the track has the same width all along the track. So
> all screenshots are with a trackwidth set to 11 metres. And I agree it
> looks very wide on that screenshot, but I can assure you, you need all the
> tarmac there is :-) Screenshots can do funny stuff, as can be concluded
> from the fact that the width looks very different on the pics.
> Gplss10 is taken at the same spot as Gplss11, and I'd rather suggest
taking
> the incar/f10 shots as guideline than the external camera's (with detial
> settings, different carshapes etc). You think it looks too wide there as
> well?

> Ofcourse the main objective of making a track, is making something that
> people enjoy racing on. So "fun" (playablity) is in some cases something
> that has to be set against historical accuracy. No point making a track
> that is soo difficult it's barely driven on VROC.

> Thanks for your encouragement and critical notes, I'll take it into
> consideration.
> If you have more comments please express them (in a way that's
> constructivly usable).

> Martijn

> > > After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in the
> > MotorSport
> > > article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the width of
the
> > > track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's almost the
> width
> > > of a 4-lane highway!

> > It looked much too wide on gplss11.jpg, but the road looked the right
> width
> > along the river... so I'm not making my mind up yet.  It might be the
> best
> > track ever for GPL if it's done well.  And yes, better than the 'Ring.

Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Thanks, Gunther.
Ever since add-on tracks have been created for GPL I've had a craving for a
Solitude!  Like you, I am looking forward to trying the circuit.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------



> >After viewing all the images, and then looking at the pix in the
MotorSport
> >article, the first thing that struck was the fact that the width of the
> >track has been drawn much greater than in real life; it's almost the
width
> >of a 4-lane highway!
> >Have a look at this shot and see if you feel the same:-
> >http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/gplss11.jpg

> >--
> >Regards,
> >Bruce Kennewell,
> >Canberra, Australia.

> Hello,

> I am living close to Stuttgart and I drove that road several times (not
> under race conditions, of course). It is a real narrow 2-lane highway
(maybe
> 8 to 11 meters wide) and today it is used as a normal highway to connect
> Stuttgart and a little village called Leonberg. When I'm driving that
> highway with my father, I have always to listen his old stories when he
was
> there at the Solitude with his motorbike watching the races on sundays. If
> that track is done well, it will be one of the most challenging tracks for
> GPL and it will be a real nightmare to overtake, because it is a REAL
narrow
> track. I can't wait to check out the track under race conditions.

> Regards
>     Gunther

Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I'm still waiting for his Honda to be completed.  :-)
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> On Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:25:50 +0100, "Gradee \"The BoDee\" Ventura"



> >> I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

> >> http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

> >> Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
> >> a blast!!
> >> And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
> >> have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
> >> for a banked Monza :)

> >Martijn making it? Believe me, it will rock!

> Who is he? Did he make other things for GPL or other sims?
> Or is he a mysterie man like Noonan?

> Andre

Bruce Kennewel

New track in the making

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Ooops....wrong Martin! Sorry.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> I'm still waiting for his Honda to be completed.  :-)
> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------



> > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:25:50 +0100, "Gradee \"The BoDee\" Ventura"



> > >> I just saw this link at Tim Wheatley's site:

> > >> http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/

> > >> Looking goooood... check out the track map, this track is going to be
> > >> a blast!!
> > >> And it's being made by Martijn Keizer. Never heard of him, but now we
> > >> have another one who's able to make tracks. Now we can beg him also
> > >> for a banked Monza :)

> > >Martijn making it? Believe me, it will rock!

> > Who is he? Did he make other things for GPL or other sims?
> > Or is he a mysterie man like Noonan?

> > Andre

Goy Larse

New track in the making

by Goy Larse » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00


>   When I first looked at the track map, I thought:
> 'it's just the Hockenheim Ring run backwards with a few esses thrown in the
> back straight.'  But after looking at the screen shots, WOW!  Good work lad.
> Keep it up, we will be looking forward to the track's release...
>   oh...and Goy,   get after Jan to convert this for TPTCC use.   YOWSA!
> dave henrie

Well, as it happens, we're meeting up for the BTCC race at Snetterton
this weekend, so I will try my best :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

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