The physics of the cars of that era or the physics of the game?
Michael
[snip]
The physics of the cars of that era or the physics of the game?
Michael
[snip]
> What's the point? Night follows day. Water is wet. If you're reading this
> and not hopelessly a NASCAR or CART bigot, you're buying GP3 before the end
> of July. Right?
> Michael.
> > I have a request for all those who will be posting their reviews of GP3
> > on this board. I would like a couple of other games referenced in your
> > evaluation, specifically F1 2000 and GPL. I don't intend to start a war
> > about whether those games are good or not, I would simply like a
> > reference so I can gauge our different tastes. A simple, "I liked (or
> > didn't like) F1 2000, Love (or hate) GPL," or otherwise would help. That
> > way those of us who either liked or disliked the aforementioned, can
> > weigh each evaluation with some perspective.
back to gpl...
Martyn_D
will wait and see about GP3, prolly wait til its in the bargain bin tho
> Michael.
> > I have a request for all those who will be posting their reviews of GP3
> > on this board. I would like a couple of other games referenced in your
> > evaluation, specifically F1 2000 and GPL. I don't intend to start a war
> > about whether those games are good or not, I would simply like a
> > reference so I can gauge our different tastes. A simple, "I liked (or
> > didn't like) F1 2000, Love (or hate) GPL," or otherwise would help. That
> > way those of us who either liked or disliked the aforementioned, can
> > weigh each evaluation with some perspective.
> The physics of the cars of that era or the physics of the game?
> Michael
> > I can guarantee, without fail, that within a month of buying GP3 I'll
> wheel
> > out the 1967 car just to enjoy the physics.
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------
> [snip]
It might be delayed.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
> Michael.
> > I have a request for all those who will be posting their reviews of GP3
> > on this board. I would like a couple of other games referenced in your
> > evaluation, specifically F1 2000 and GPL. I don't intend to start a war
> > about whether those games are good or not, I would simply like a
> > reference so I can gauge our different tastes. A simple, "I liked (or
> > didn't like) F1 2000, Love (or hate) GPL," or otherwise would help. That
> > way those of us who either liked or disliked the aforementioned, can
> > weigh each evaluation with some perspective.
>> >Somehow I don't think this is the best place you could be if you want an
>> >honest review of GP3:-)
>> >We all know not many around here will admit to anything beating GPL.....
>> Once again.... will you ever get it? :-)
>> We all *want* it to beat GPL. If such a sim ever arrives, ras will be a
>> very happy place. People don't admit to anything beating GPL because
>> *nothing has*, and not just because it's GPL.
>> If GP3 is better than GPL we'll all freely admit it. If it's not, we
>> won't...
>hehe, I know what you mean Graeme but I think some sims deserve a little
>more recognition than they got around here in the last year or so:-)
(Sorry if this post rambles a bit, but I'm reacting to some of your
other posts of that nature.)
No, I'm here for an *** discussion. One other thing to consider
is that this newsgroup tends to bring out the hard-core simmers, and
GPL is *the* hard-core sim. People invest a lot of time in GPL, so
its hardly surprising that that is what they talk about the most.
I've flirted with other sims like SCGT or DTR this year, but they're
just a short-term diversion (and thus don't generate much talk from
me) compared to the going-on-two-year "full GPL immersion therapy".
:)
If something better comes along, I'll take a look at it. I'm a bit
skeptical about GP3, since I'm not really a Crammond fan (I have GP1
and GP2, but ICR1 stole my heart and I lean more to the Kraemmer
school of simming), but I want to hear what people think and may buy
it if it sounds good to me. Not really a NASCAR fan, but N4 and NH
have potential (again, for me). And WSC looks like it may be the next
true successor to GPL, *if* the West Brothers can pull it off. Let's
hope so.
"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
This is a Warez version being reviewed............
No way of knowing what level of release alpha/beta whatever.
The bitmaps used could well be completely different to those shipped on the
CD.
One person saying FF works the other saying it doesn't........
One says Canned spins the other no canned spins......
Wait 1 whole week and decide on the release version not some cobbled
together WAREZ peice of crap!!!!!
Peter Cook
ACT
Australia
The advanced reviews DO hold water for me -- most warez, beta, or even
late alpha titles I've sampled have usually been pretty darn close to
the finished product, and I don't have any high expectations for the
final version of GP3 based on what we're hearing so far. On the other
hand, the warez version of NFSPU was downright "excellent" in my
opinion, and the finished version was even better.
Everyone who is staunchly defending GP3 needs to consider this as
well: If GP3 turns out to NOT be a big money-maker for Hasbro, then
that could be the end of racing "sims" as we know it. If Hasbro loses
money, then we'll probably never see another racer labeled as a "sim"
from them -- and if that happens to Hasbro, then other publishers will
probably follow suit (you can almost hear the boardrooms now: "Hey, if
Hasbro couldn't make money with an F1 license and that Crammond guy,
there's no way we're ever going to consider doing a driving sim!").
Scoff if you want, but this is how "industry trends" get started. Just
ask the flight simmers how bleak things can get.
If GP3 is anything less than a resounding success, then Crammond may go
from "saivor" to "goat" quicker than an F1 car goes from 0-to-60.
-- JB
> Michael.
> > I have a request for all those who will be posting their reviews of
GP3
> > on this board. I would like a couple of other games referenced in
your
> > evaluation, specifically F1 2000 and GPL. I don't intend to start a
war
> > about whether those games are good or not, I would simply like a
> > reference so I can gauge our different tastes. A simple, "I liked
(or
> > didn't like) F1 2000, Love (or hate) GPL," or otherwise would help.
That
> > way those of us who either liked or disliked the aforementioned, can
> > weigh each evaluation with some perspective.
Oh God! Another doomsayer!!
Hasbro has been back-pedalling for some years.......the Mircroprose that we
used to know disappeared with Bill Staley.
If they fold in repsonse to bad sales of GP3 then it's no great shakes.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
You mean Wild Bill Stealey? He's the guy that probably started MPS on
the downward spiral in the first place. Just look at how he handled
iMagic for proof.
--
Nos
John
I am assuming that hasbro/microprose did not give crammond
enough resources (be it people or money or time) to do much
more than what he did. I don't see this as crammond's fault. I
blame the bean counters at hasbro and/or the market in general.
But the current market is reeling from a host of canceled games
and totally ***games that never sold well. Little do the bean
counters realize that more resources for crammond to do a better
game would yield *MUCH* higher sales. But if the huge presales
numbers are true, then they will at least brake even...
There will be allot of pissed off people though.
--
> >Hasbro has been back-pedalling for some years.......the Mircroprose that
we
> >used to know disappeared with Bill Staley.
> You mean Wild Bill Stealey? He's the guy that probably started MPS on
> the downward spiral in the first place. Just look at how he handled
> iMagic for proof.
LOL!! -You're on great form Greg...
Jan.
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