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Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

Jr Bill

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Jr Bill » Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Oh please! This was a major tragedy in motorsports and it only seems to bother
you. There was absolutely no suggestion of posting results or news. If this
were 1996 and Jeff Krosnoff had just been killed would you really have that
much of a hissy fit about someone asking for prayers for his soul and his
family?!? Even if it is off topic, it is only slightly off, and with and event
of this magnitude I think we can make an exeption. After all, the last time a
spectator was killed was Indy in 87.
Trip

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Trip » Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:00:00


> Oh please! This was a major tragedy in motorsports and it only seems to bother
> you. There was absolutely no suggestion of posting results or news. If this
> were 1996 and Jeff Krosnoff had just been killed would you really have that
> much of a hissy fit about someone asking for prayers for his soul and his
> family?!? Even if it is off topic, it is only slightly off, and with and event
> of this magnitude I think we can make an exeption. After all, the last time a
> spectator was killed was Indy in 87.

Maybe it'll turn into a new "God bless princess Diane" thread...

Trips

Zonk

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Zonk » Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:00:00


In the US, perhaps.

Z.

Joe Droga

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Joe Droga » Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:00:00

What? Like folks "doin it" on the hood of a racecar?!?<g>


> >Oh, please indeed!..Actually he said "racefan"...If you didn't
> >care for the post, then why not simply leave it alone?  No one
> >asked for your thoughtless and cynical drivel BTW.

> Well, i'm sure many people here like a nice bit of ***, so would people
> object if i post some? :P

> It's a simple issue of what's on-topic or not.

ymenar

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by ymenar » Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:00:00



>>Oh, please indeed!..Actually he said "racefan"...If you didn't
>>care for the post, then why not simply leave it alone?  No one
>>asked for your thoughtless and cynical drivel BTW.
>Well, i'm sure many people here like a nice bit of ***, so would people
>object if i post some? :P

>It's a simple issue of what's on-topic or not.

But that's posting Binary files, and should not be here (that's a whole
different deal). ;-P

Well I still consider you as a newbie here, and hopefully you don't end up
in my "troll" file.  You seem to be quite harsh to some people here, so
please and this comes from most of the community here :

"Chill off".

I have lurked the .indy and .f1 newsgroup after the incident and your
probably the first and only person who doesn't care about this incident, and
actually showing no compassion at all.

If you would have been here more longer than 3weeks, you would had seen that
off-topic posting are quite accepted here since many years and are in big
numbers.

- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

ymenar

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by ymenar » Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:00:00

I include here the r.a.s. FAQ.  This is the official and final word on
off-topic on r.a.s.   If you ever want to changed the FAQ to disable any
off-topic use, we can discuss and call out a public voting about it.

All done in a democratic way, be sure (I edited some stuff in it like links
and non-topic related articles).

If any of you want to change the FAQ about this, it will be done. Zonker
even if you are alone you have the rights to fight about killing off-topic
posts on r.a.s.  But it will still be the democracy who will win !

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Bruce Kennewel

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Put a sock in it, Zonk, for Christs' sake!!


> even more stuff.

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Bruce Kennewel

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Oh deary me.......if you really want to go trolling for bites, why not
try rec.alt.sports.fishing?


> more stuff.

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Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00

.......yes....a charming woman she was.
I say "God Bless Princess Diana"!!


> Maybe it'll turn into a new "God bless princess Diane" thread...

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Ken Bear

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Ken Bear » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00


>I fell sorry for the members of this ng who are continually subject to
posts
>which belong in the rec.autos.sport.* groups.

>Z.

Sorry to ruin your day.  Just figured some here would be interested in the
news, since I'd guess 99% of the folks here also follow real-world racing,
and have probably been to a race, and can appreciate this tragedy.  They may
not subscribe to RASI or have seen the news, but may have very well been
interested in it, which is why I posted.

And if your time and money listening to off-topic stuff are so important,
WHY respond to so much of this thread?  It's a contradiction.

And never go to 3dfx.products.voodoo2, I'd guess a full 80% of the posts are
mainly or fully off-topic.  Yes, that annoys me.  I try to follow
nettiquette as much as possible, but see where "bending" the rules as I did
here is sometimes appropriate.

Ken

Zonk

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Zonk » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00




>>>Oh, please indeed!..Actually he said "racefan"...If you didn't
>>>care for the post, then why not simply leave it alone?  No one
>>>asked for your thoughtless and cynical drivel BTW.

>>Well, i'm sure many people here like a nice bit of ***, so would people
>>object if i post some? :P

>>It's a simple issue of what's on-topic or not.

>But that's posting Binary files, and should not be here (that's a whole
>different deal). ;-P

>Well I still consider you as a newbie here, and hopefully you don't end up
>in my "troll" file.  You seem to be quite harsh to some people here, so
>please and this comes from most of the community here :

>"Chill off".

>I have lurked the .indy and .f1 newsgroup after the incident and your
>probably the first and only person who doesn't care about this incident, and
>actually showing no compassion at all.

>If you would have been here more longer than 3weeks, you would had seen that
>off-topic posting are quite accepted here since many years and are in big
>numbers.

>- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
>- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
>- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club
>- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
>- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
>- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

:)

Considering i've been on rec.autos.simulators the last 3 odd years, i'd
decline your role of "newbie" and i will say that yes you are correct, more
and more off-topic posting are happening here, and yeah it really does***me
off.

Z.

Zonk

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Zonk » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00


>I include here the r.a.s. FAQ.  This is the official and final word on
>off-topic on r.a.s.   If you ever want to changed the FAQ to disable any
>off-topic use, we can discuss and call out a public voting about it.

>All done in a democratic way, be sure (I edited some stuff in it like links
>and non-topic related articles).

>If any of you want to change the FAQ about this, it will be done. Zonker
>even if you are alone you have the rights to fight about killing off-topic
>posts on r.a.s.  But it will still be the democracy who will win !

I think you'll find you are actually quite mistaken there. The FAQ does not
represent any form of guide as to what is and what is not on or off topic. I
think you'll find that is the nwesgroup charter which was voted on
democratically( as you point out) at the time of creation of this ng.

Z.

Zonk

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Zonk » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00


>I have lurked the .indy and .f1 newsgroup after the incident and your
>probably the first and only person who doesn't care about this incident, and
>actually showing no compassion at all.

I wouldn't say that is the case at all, actually. I do acknoledge it is
unfortunate, but i accept every time i go to a motor race (which is by all
means very frequently) i am putting myself is a position of risk. Accidents
are very unlikely to happen which could cause injury or death to myself or
others, but the chance that it can happen can't be ignored.

I did actually seen a rather interesting post (granted with out the actual
stats to back it up) regarding that one wonders how many people died on the
way home in their car/or on the way there, but because their deaths were not
in the public eye, will be ignored.

Z.

Zonk

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Zonk » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00



Exactly my point Ken. I'd hate to see this ng go that way.

Z.

Goy Larse

Three spectators killed at Michigan Intl. Speedway during CART US 500

by Goy Larse » Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Zonker, although in principle you may be right, I just find it strange
and in very bad taste that you chose that topic for your "quest" to
"save" this NG

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
UncleGoy on TEN


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