rec.autos.simulators

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

Richar

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Richar » Sat, 03 May 2008 02:46:50

You know this has to happen. It's inevitable. Some one was going to say
it. It's a R.A.S tradition.
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v

It's no GPL   ;)

But it is a whole lot faster then a Lotus.

Bond Is Ga

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Bond Is Ga » Sat, 03 May 2008 05:46:38


> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:37:42 GMT, "Doomsday Machine"

>>French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator)
>>Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

>>In May of 2008 the largest, most expensive scientific experiment, The
>>Large
>>Hadron Collider will be completed. This mechanical behemoth located along
>>the French and Swiss border with a total estimated circumference of 17
>>miles
>>will be the most powerful particle accelerator in existence. The principal
>>behind a particle accelerator is that by speeding up the smallest elements
>>of matter and then colliding them together that they can be broken down
>>further into even smaller fundamental particles, just as Atoms were once
>>thought to be the smallest units, so then were Quarks(Up and Down),
>>Electrons, and Protons discovered.

>>Why haven't I heard about this before?

> They wanted to build one in Texas or Ann Arbor Michigan a few years ago.
> It was cancelled because it cost too much IIRC, but I had the feeling
> big oil didn't like it.

> As opposed to my stand on going to Mars :-), I fully support this
> project.

> If we are to advance out of the petrochemical age as a race, we will
> need to take the next step forward, into the smallness of things, where
> the secrets of multi-dimensionality, anti-gravity, anti-matter and time
> reside.

> If you think the Atomic Age was the dawning of something powerful, wait
> until they figure out the quarks. I expect them to eventually gain
> control over anti-matter out of it.

> This project represents the future hopes of mankind.

> zentara

Links..

Large Hadron Collider

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

CERN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN

LHC Concerns

http://lhcconcerns.com/

National Geograhic - The God Particle

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text

BBC News - Lab Fireball May Have Been Black Hole

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4357613.stm

An Open Letter To Stephen Hawking

http://lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcerns/Forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72

Black Holes On Demand (George Street Journal)

http://www.brown.edu/Administration/George_Street_Journal/vol26/26GSJ...

CBC News - LHC

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/science/lhc.html

New York Times - LHC Dangerous?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/science/15cern.html?ex=1336881600&e...

LHC Legal Defense Fund

http://www.lhcdefense.org/

MySpace STOP CERN Website

http://www.myspace.com/stopcern

LHC Risk Evaluation Forum

http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/

YouTube music Video Of The Atom Smasher (LHC) Black Hole Generator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOFSrS03wjE#GU5U2spHI_4

French Build Doomsday Machine

http://www.misunderstooduniverse.com/France_Builds_Doomsday_Machine.htm

U-Tube Videos

Documentery

Large Hadron Collider - The Search For The Higgs [1 of 3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJ6PMfnz2E&feature=related

Large Hadron Collider - The Search For The Higgs [2 of 3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQNPpeVvZ9w&feature=related

Large Hadron Collider - The Search For The Higgs [3 of 3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XbKZwXK-3c&feature=related

The Large Hadron Collider: The End Of The Universe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPxYdObyJ2A&feature=related

I'm all for it as well. If they built it on Mars!

Byron Forbe

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 03 May 2008 08:50:42








>>> > > On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:01:56 +1000, "Byron Forbes"

>>> >>>   Awe come on - that was good stuff!

>>> >>>  The basic point is this - you will get super densities (which
>>> they  are
>>> > > > calling micro black holes) produced by making protons have head
>>> > > > on collisions with a relative speed of twice the speed of
>>> > > > light. If the gravity produced was strong enough and enough of
>>> > > > these micro black holes occured close enough to each other then
>>> > > > they could become a black hole proper.

>>> >>>  So what you say? Well then the entire planet collapses in on
>>> itself  in
>>> > > > an instant. Don't worry - you won't see it coming or feel a
>>> > > > thing! :)

>>> > > Crap, the Greens will be pissed. Black is almost impossible to
>>> > > keep clean. ;-)

>>> > Most planets of our class destroy them selves not by war but by
>>> > compressing the entire planet to the size of a pea looking for the
>>> > Higgs  Boson.

>>> Most planets dont have the Human virus.

>>> AC

>>How do you know?

>>The outcome of an infinite Universe containing an infinite number of
>>stars with planets then by definition there must be an infinite number
>>of planets which have the human virus...

> Unless we're just a simulation of course.
> The possibility of us, as a simulation, being just a subsimulation of
> one of an infinite number of simulations, themselves running as subs
> in their respective infinite numbers of parent simulations
> notwithstanding, it is still only a simulation, and thus not real and
> so nothing to for us to worry about..

>>... my head hurts ;-)

> Hope this helped. :)

> --

> Regards, Frank

    Yeah, but shift - R is cheating and every lap completed after a shift-R
is increasingly meaningless as will our lives be if we allow this micro
black hole to suck us all in like a huge ***!
Byron Forbe

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 03 May 2008 08:58:22



>> by definition there must be an infinite number
>> of planets which have the human virus...

> I think there will have been many similar species across the universe.
> However as life is inherently unlikely and unstable (ie ultimately
> self-destructive), I think the chances of any two planets anywhere
> containing life at the same time are close enough to zero to make no
> difference.

> The infinity thing is fascinating though. There are an infinite number of
> numbers. There are also an infinite number of just even numbers (or odd
> numbers). It therefore stands to reason that an infinite number of
> numbers ought to contain twice as many numbers as an infinite number of
> even numbers.

> There are also an infinite number of numbers between each number.
> Therefore an infinite number of numbers must contain (infinity)^2
> numbers.

> Which all goes to prove that infinity is hard to fit into a box. Even a
> very big one. It's far simpler to just lie on your back on a clear night,
> holding onto the planet firmly just in case you fall off while
> contemplating the triviality of your lowly existence.

> Andrew McP

    Yeah, this entire thing is one of those "in between 6" or even "in the
middle of 6" type of things. ie pretty freaky stuff.

    What does this mean?

    Well, this is the part of the number line between the numbers 5.9
(repeater) and 6.0 (repeater) with a 1 on the end.

    Just thought I'd throw that in.

Byron Forbe

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 03 May 2008 09:03:37









>>> > > On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:01:56 +1000, "Byron Forbes"

>>> >>>   Awe come on - that was good stuff!

>>> >>>  The basic point is this - you will get super densities (which
>>> they  are
>>> > > > calling micro black holes) produced by making protons have head
>>> > > > on collisions with a relative speed of twice the speed of
>>> > > > light. If the gravity produced was strong enough and enough of
>>> > > > these micro black holes occured close enough to each other then
>>> > > > they could become a black hole proper.

>>> >>>  So what you say? Well then the entire planet collapses in on
>>> itself  in
>>> > > > an instant. Don't worry - you won't see it coming or feel a
>>> > > > thing! :)

>>> > > Crap, the Greens will be pissed. Black is almost impossible to
>>> > > keep clean. ;-)

>>> > Most planets of our class destroy them selves not by war but by
>>> > compressing the entire planet to the size of a pea looking for the
>>> > Higgs  Boson.

>>> Most planets dont have the Human virus.

>>> AC

>> How do you know?

>> The outcome of an infinite Universe containing an infinite number of
>> stars with planets then by definition there must be an infinite number
>> of planets which have the human virus...

>> ... my head hurts ;-)

>> --
>> Paul-B

> Allow me to split a hair....

> Would intelligent life (assuming we believe that is what we have on Earth)
> on another planet be human? Would nature repeat the same mistake?
> Although, that could be a super duper from of evolution. In that only life
> that learns to protect it's planet survives. If so, I wonder how we are
> doing? Hmmmmm

> AC

    Put aside the entire theory of evolution - the human organism, as with
every other organism, is clearly the design of other beings ie gods.

    And no, I'm not a silly christian cunt! Nor a silly atheist obviously.

Byron Forbe

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 03 May 2008 09:06:55


    I wonder whether the aliens visiting/living here are the ones who will
make this happen...

Byron Forbe

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 03 May 2008 09:18:20




>>    Awe come on - that was good stuff!

>>    The basic point is this - you will get super densities (which they are
>> calling micro black holes) produced by making protons have head on
>> collisions with a relative speed of twice the speed of light. If the
>> gravity produced was strong enough and enough of these micro black holes
>> occured close enough to each other then they could become a black hole
>> proper.

>>    So what you say? Well then the entire planet collapses in on itself in
>> an instant. Don't worry - you won't see it coming or feel a thing! :)

> So the chances of them finding what they are looking for are practially
> ZERO.

> But the chances of something bad happening are NOT but zero but darn
> close.

> Good investment..

    They are attempting to break matter down into sub sub-atomic particles
ie beyond protons, electrons, neutrons, etc. How they intend to detect
something they have no knowledge of is anyones guess - it seems to me it
will be like looking for a "something" in a haystack (at least with a needle
you'd actually be aware of it if you happened to find it)! But I'll bet
novices like me said the same thing when they were attempting to split the
atom.
AC

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by AC » Sat, 03 May 2008 09:53:57




>>I wonder whether the aliens visiting/living here would allow that to
>>happen...

>    I wonder whether the aliens visiting/living here are the ones who will
> make this happen...

Dont be silly.

This experiment will aparently create small worm holes. The aliens are
waiting for these to appear so they can prise them open and invade. Those of
us with tinfoil hats will become the chosen ones.

Personally I like the irony of the world being invaded via Swizerland.

AC

PoB

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by PoB » Sat, 03 May 2008 21:10:08


|
| >


| > >


| > > > On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:01:56 +1000, "Byron Forbes"
| > > >
| > >>>   Awe come on - that was good stuff!
| > > > >
| > >>>  The basic point is this - you will get super densities (which
| > they  are
| > > > > calling micro black holes) produced by making protons have head
| > > > > on collisions with a relative speed of twice the speed of
| > > > > light. If the gravity produced was strong enough and enough of
| > > > > these micro black holes occured close enough to each other then
| > > > > they could become a black hole proper.
| > > > >
| > >>>  So what you say? Well then the entire planet collapses in on
| > itself  in
| > > > > an instant. Don't worry - you won't see it coming or feel a
| > > > > thing! :)
| > > > >
| > > > Crap, the Greens will be pissed. Black is almost impossible to
| > > > keep clean. ;-)
| > >
| > > Most planets of our class destroy them selves not by war but by
| > > compressing the entire planet to the size of a pea looking for the
| > > Higgs  Boson.
| > >
| >
| > Most planets dont have the Human virus.
| >
| > AC
|
| How do you know?
|
| The outcome of an infinite Universe containing an infinite number of
| stars with planets then by definition there must be an infinite number
| of planets which have the human virus...
|
| ... my head hurts ;-)
|
Ah, no - just looking at our solar system shows that not all planets are
inhabited.  A number less than infinity is finite.  Any finite number
divided by infinity is as close to zero as makes no difference, hence all
people are figments of my imagination.

Damn, I'm good....

E

Bob Simpso

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Bob Simpso » Sun, 04 May 2008 02:03:10



> This experiment will aparently create small worm holes. The aliens are
> waiting for these to appear so they can prise them open and invade. Those of
> us with tinfoil hats will become the chosen ones.

> Personally I like the irony of the world being invaded via Swizerland.

> AC

I also understand that if you sail a ship off the edge of the flat
earth, you fall into space.

Bob Simpson

AC

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by AC » Sun, 04 May 2008 04:45:37




> This experiment will aparently create small worm holes. The aliens are
> waiting for these to appear so they can prise them open and invade. Those
> of
> us with tinfoil hats will become the chosen ones.

> Personally I like the irony of the world being invaded via Swizerland.

> AC
>I also understand that if you sail a ship off the edge of the flat
>earth, you fall into space.

>Bob Simpson

That might explian where your sense of humour went, but not what to do about
wormhole stretching aliens invading.

AC

Peter

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Peter » Sun, 04 May 2008 09:35:25






>> This experiment will aparently create small worm holes. The aliens are
>> waiting for these to appear so they can prise them open and invade. Those
>> of
>> us with tinfoil hats will become the chosen ones.

>> Personally I like the irony of the world being invaded via Swizerland.

>> AC

>>I also understand that if you sail a ship off the edge of the flat
>>earth, you fall into space.

>>Bob Simpson

> That might explian where your sense of humour went, but not what to do
> about wormhole stretching aliens invading.

> AC

So eventually we know more and more about less and less until we know
everything about nothing.

Peter R.

AC

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by AC » Sun, 04 May 2008 18:32:17








>>> This experiment will aparently create small worm holes. The aliens are
>>> waiting for these to appear so they can prise them open and invade.
>>> Those of
>>> us with tinfoil hats will become the chosen ones.

>>> Personally I like the irony of the world being invaded via Swizerland.

>>> AC

>>>I also understand that if you sail a ship off the edge of the flat
>>>earth, you fall into space.

>>>Bob Simpson

>> That might explian where your sense of humour went, but not what to do
>> about wormhole stretching aliens invading.

>> AC
> So eventually we know more and more about less and less until we know
> everything about nothing.

> Peter R.

Exactly !!!!!

Or not ???

Doh...............

AC

ghjone

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by ghjone » Fri, 09 May 2008 09:38:02


Anyone know what part of the machine these are? Looks cool. James Bond stuff
:)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/science/29collider.html?_r=2&hp&ore...

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text

Asgeir Nesoe

French And CERN Build Massive Particle Accelerator (Black Hole Generator) Unknown Planetary Risk To Create BIG BANG

by Asgeir Nesoe » Tue, 20 May 2008 16:10:00

Shift-R? What does shift-R do? Which game?

--A--



>     Yeah, but shift - R is cheating and every lap completed after a shift-R
> is increasingly meaningless as will our lives be if we allow this micro
> black hole to suck us all in like a huge ***!


rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.