rec.autos.simulators

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00

All of the time? 95% of the messages are on topic and the ones concerning
real racing are only a little off topic and still of interest to MOST sim
fans. Look at the threads of the discussions of real racing. They generally
compare what happened to sim experience, physics and realism. Very on topic
if you ask me.

> The point here is that Usenet is categorised for a reason. If we all talk
> slightly off topic all the time what is the point of the groupings?

> M



> >In which case a post like:

> >Hey SCGT fans, there is an interesting post going on over in r.a.s.misc
> >about the Merk incident at le mans, why not check it out is in order.

> >This is about on topic issues, not what a large % of people might enjoy
> >to read about.

> >I'm sure most RAS fans are interested in sex, but i'm not about to post
> >my weekend's actvities here. (try alt.sex.stories.moderated? :P)

> >Z.

> >Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00

People who like sims like real racing. People who like sims like to discuss
real racing with the smae people they discuss sims. Apart from you and Z I
have never encountered anybody arguing against the 5% of messages (well 50%
since this thread started) about real racing. Perhaps you should go back and
read some of the off topic threads you are having kittens about. In one way
or another they relate to peoples sim experiences and expectations. If we
were talking about the mating habits of the Tasmanian Aardvark then you would
have something to whine about.



> >You call me an ignorant what?
> >There goes your credibility out of the window if that is all you can
> >offer by way of reasoned debate. I am open to arguments of opinion from
> >all quarters provided people can articulate their message without
> >resorting to personal jibes of this nature

> >That guy was suggesting nothing. He cut into this thread in an abrupt
> >manner and then tried dictating to people  in an extremely aggresive way
> >- the hypocryte that he is, posting off topic stuff himself elsewhere.
> >There is a subtle difference. You and him are one of a kind when it
> >comes to intelligence aren't you. You run out of capacity to applying
> >logic at the first hurdle and hence have to resort to common denominator
> >vulgarity and personal attacks.

> No, actually I haven't run out of "capacity to applying logic at the
> first hurdle" at all, I just wasn't aware that your comment was a hurdle
> nor intelligent. The use of profanity was as a punctuation to my comment
> rather than the core. If you want to go back you'll find that this was
> the first such comment I've made, thus it is hardly anything to make any
> wild assumptions from.

> Had you made an intelligent comment rather than a relatively unfunny one
> liner I'd have created a more detailled response. As it was I felt it was
> uneccesary.

> Whatever your viewpoint, opinion or disagreement with the previous posts
> was, you never made it at all clear. Perhaps if you had done I wouldn't
> have replied in that tone.

> >Care to come and discuss this in rec.bad.marshalling.at.the.ring?

> Care to re-read the post you just took offence to? Perhaps you want to
> read the bit where I said "Regardless of whether we do go off topic or
> not from time to time, we shouldn't."? I go off topic, in fact I think
> pretty much everyone here has at times.

> Whatever... the point is a valid one. Can you tell me that you disagree
> with people preferring on topic posting than off topic?

> M

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00

So people who wish to know why a Mercedes becomes airborn twice in a week and
nearly kills two of the worlds upcoming drivers are morbid sickos. Good logic. I
would love to continue with this brilliant concept but I have some kittens to drown
and***videos to watch!



> >>Hey SCGT fans, there is an interesting post going on over in r.a.s.misc about
> >>the Merk incident at le mans, why not check it out is in order.

> >>This is about on topic issues, not what a large % of people might enjoy to
> >>read about.

> >>I'm sure most RAS fans are interested in sex, but i'm not about to post my
> >>weekend's actvities here. (try alt.sex.stories.moderated? :P)

> >Or alt.lonely.whacking.off?

> sadly, i have to disappoint you. But it appear someone was whacking off in my
> camper. Didn't catch 'em, but i suspect it was you.

> >Seems like every message I see from you is telling other people how to
> >post. If I see your name more than 3 times in a thread, I know it's a
> >flame war.
> I'm not telling anyone how to post. If i was that manical about it'd i'd run a
> cancel bot.
> >Apparently, you're oblivious to the fact that you cause a bigger
> >shit-storm by doing this than by ignoring the message.
> >If you think you're making the newsgroup better, you're wrong. You're
> >just poisoning the casual atmosphere of a great newsgroup.

> er... casual... right...  if you want a look at a casual group, try most of
> alt.* causal to the extent that no one is on topic.

> >I know I'll probably regret sending this, but I can't frigging stand
> >it anymore. Zonkie, I wish you would take a flying ***in' leap.

> Personally i wish all the morbid ***ers who get wood everytime there is some
> kind of car crash and love to chat about it and download video's and *** off
> at it and then slam arcade racers for high silly crash modes and the like are
> self indulgent sicko's.

> (you may notice, i object most to those crash releasted motorsport threads.
> There is a point).

> I wish you'd get laid, try your mum. She could suck a salami through a 12 foot
> hose.
> Z.

> >Tim

> Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Meij

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Meij » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Jesus you're dense. Is it *so* hard to add another newsgroup to your
subscribed list that people need to have discussions about real racing
here. I engage in discussions about "real racing" on ras.f1 or ras.indy
or ras.nascar or whatever and sim racing here. That is the point of
Usenet. Do you think there are large Quake threads in Half-Life
newsgroups or perhaps large ASP threads in the Cold Fusion groups? After
all, they're similar and a lot of people are interested in both so why
not? The answer is that the structure of the groups is formed to provide
forums for people to talk about specific subjects NOT whatever they want.

My argument was that on a level of what is *supposed* to be done on
newgroups we should try to keep real racing on the appropriate group and
let the people who want to see them subscribe to them directly rather
than being forced to wade past them. It doesn't really matter whether
people are interested or not, off topic is off topic. The argument of
degrees of off topic-ness is reminding me of a friend who once described
analogue as "varying degrees of on and off". Something is either on or off,
no?

Personally on topic/off topic doesn't really bother me unless I'm using a
modem, something I don't have to do any more that often fortunately.

Whatever...

M



Zonk

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Zonk » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quite so. but to say "nearly" killed is a reaaaaal stretch. No significant
injuries to either. But i stand by it. If you weren't watching the race,and no
interest in doign so till the accident occured.....

Z.

Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Meij

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Meij » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Back to the on-topic-off-topic part of this thread, Mercedes have withdrawn
the CLR's from the Norisring race and thus it's been cancelled.

M

Byron Forbe

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Byron Forbe » Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:00:00

    LOL.

> So people who wish to know why a Mercedes becomes airborn twice in a week and
> nearly kills two of the worlds upcoming drivers are morbid sickos. Good logic. I
> would love to continue with this brilliant concept but I have some kittens to drown
> and***videos to watch!

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Once again logic loses out to abuse. Calling Jesus dense doesn't really add to
the debate and since I am not him I don't see why you mentioned his
intelligence in the first place.

Lets see, if on an average day 250 posts are sent to this news group and even
10% of them are off topic then with a 56KB modem it would probably take less
than 5 seconds to download the headers for these 25 off topic messages. I
apologise if this extra 5 seconds a day is important to you but if you estimate
the time you have wasted with this thread it probably adds up to several years
worth of just ignoring the off topic messages and letting others enjoy them!

OH, I forgot, you are too good for a modem so lets see, if you use a cable
modem like myself it would add up to less than 1/2 a second per day to load
those *** 25 off topic headers.


> Jesus you're dense. Is it *so* hard to add another newsgroup to your
> subscribed list that people need to have discussions about real racing
> here. I engage in discussions about "real racing" on ras.f1 or ras.indy
> or ras.nascar or whatever and sim racing here. That is the point of
> Usenet. Do you think there are large Quake threads in Half-Life
> newsgroups or perhaps large ASP threads in the Cold Fusion groups? After
> all, they're similar and a lot of people are interested in both so why
> not? The answer is that the structure of the groups is formed to provide
> forums for people to talk about specific subjects NOT whatever they want.

> My argument was that on a level of what is *supposed* to be done on
> newgroups we should try to keep real racing on the appropriate group and
> let the people who want to see them subscribe to them directly rather
> than being forced to wade past them. It doesn't really matter whether
> people are interested or not, off topic is off topic. The argument of
> degrees of off topic-ness is reminding me of a friend who once described
> analogue as "varying degrees of on and off". Something is either on or off,
> no?

> Personally on topic/off topic doesn't really bother me unless I'm using a
> modem, something I don't have to do any more that often fortunately.

> Whatever...

> M



> >People who like sims like real racing. People who like sims like to
> >discuss real racing with the smae people they discuss sims. Apart from
> >you and Z I have never encountered anybody arguing against the 5% of
> >messages (well 50% since this thread started) about real racing. Perhaps
> >you should go back and read some of the off topic threads you are having
> >kittens about. In one way or another they relate to peoples sim
> >experiences and expectations. If we were talking about the mating habits
> >of the Tasmanian Aardvark then you would have something to whine about.

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:00:00

lack of injury does not equate to not being nearly killed. A bullet flying past 1mm from
your temple would be rated a near death experience. The same when your Mercedes flies off
the track at 300 KMH and does several somersaults before landing heavily. I agree that
there are morbid race fans who revel at the crashes, hence the popularity of HAvox tapes.
I get rather upset at local TV that only show highlights of major motorcycle events if
there is a good crash involved.


> >So people who wish to know why a Mercedes becomes airborn twice in a week and
> >nearly kills two of the worlds upcoming drivers are morbid sickos. Good logic.
> > I
> >would love to continue with this brilliant concept but I have some kittens to
> > drown
> >and***videos to watch!

> Quite so. but to say "nearly" killed is a reaaaaal stretch. No significant
> injuries to either. But i stand by it. If you weren't watching the race,and no
> interest in doign so till the accident occured.....

> Z.

> Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.


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