rec.autos.simulators

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

Stuart Nicholso

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Stuart Nicholso » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Anyone know what this LeMans sim is all about and coming from whom? Surely
it will be a bit boring.


McKafr

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by McKafr » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I dont have website ...

if you can post it, i can mail it to you ...

Graeme Nash escribi en mensaje ...

>>i can make an .AVI and mail it to you if you are interested ...

>Could you post it on a website?

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Zonk

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Zonk » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00


>Before you get into a needless pissing match read the charter... I quote
>from it.

>"This is an unmoderated newsgroup for
>discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles,
>Arcade racing simulators, which
>give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism"
>of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup,

I don't think Micro machines 3, or Ignition have been discussed here, and most
other arcade racers have***pit views.

Your point is?

Z.

Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

asgeir nes?e

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by asgeir nes?e » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Relax, guys. We're here to have a good time, not? And that flip really WAS terrifying, after all.

---Asgeir---



> >Before you get into a needless pissing match read the charter... I quote
> >from it.

> >"This is an unmoderated newsgroup for
> >discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles,
> >Arcade racing simulators, which
> >give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism"
> >of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup,

> I don't think Micro machines 3, or Ignition have been discussed here, and most
> other arcade racers have***pit views.

> Your point is?

> Z.

> Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Zonk

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Zonk » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00


>Relax, guys. We're here to have a good time, not? And that flip really WAS
> terrifying, after all.

I was here to read about simulators. I watched le mans, and if i really wanted
to chat about it, i'd be on rec.autos.sport.misc

Z.

Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I thought the biggest problem with ground effects was this exact problem. When the
cars lost the "ground"effect, due to a brocken side skirt or whatever, they tended to
flip.


> > >Absolutly! But that Merc was so fantastic. It looked stunning. I fear this
> > >typre of accident will become common place if the FIA don't do something about
> > >it...

> > Nothing new in cars flipping, been happening for years. Last car I saw
> > do it was a Porsche GT1 at Homestead. The car flipped over it's back,
> > and landed on four wheels like Christian Fittipaldi.

> Simple aerodynamics can show that wing-shaped cars that have flat bottoms will
> become airborne if something goes wrong. The air that goes over the car has to
> travel a far longer distance than the air under the car, resulting in a lowerair
> pressure above than below the car. Hence, there is an upward force. This may be
> compensated by the downforce from the wing (than works just the other way round),
> but there is only a wing at the back of the car. So if the front gets loose and
> becomes airborn (i.e. by a small distortion in the airflow due to the drag of the
> car inb front), there will be a torque  (the upward force at the front and the
> downforce at the back) causing the car to rotate. If the car is off the ground,
> the car will continue rotating until it strikes something (Newton's first law:
> inertia)

> I really think that the FIA should prevent this things from happening by either
> allowing some kind of 'ground-effect'  or by allowing wings at the front.

> Greetings,
> Han Monsees

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I think people in this newsgroup enjoy real motorsports as well and if it takes up a tiny
bit of your bandwidth to bypass the messages you don't like then you have my humble
apologies.


> >another one of their cars flipped in a horrendously spectacular arcade game
> >style accident - it is being reported that the driver, Peter Dumbreck, is OK
> >and luckily it was in an unspectatored area

> >but a bad decision by the team to run IMO and they were just lucky the
> >consequences weren't far worse

> >sa
> >w

> What does this have to do with rec.autos.simulators?

> Z.

> Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Your waisting more time complaining about threads others enjoy than contributing something usefull. I
know what I would rather read. Part of enjoying auto simulators is comparing the games with the real
action on the tracks. The flipping on the Merc is fascinating to myself and other SCGT sim racers.
Don't like it, don't read it!


> >> What does this have to do with rec.autos.simulators?

> >Nothing really, apart from the fact that the vast majority of people in here
> >have an interest in motorsport that far exceeds the boundaries of the pc
> >monitor.

> rec.autos.sport.misc exists for exactly this purpose. R.A.S does not.

> Z.

> Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Mark C Dod

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Z is a good moniker for you. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


> >Relax, guys. We're here to have a good time, not? And that flip really WAS
> > terrifying, after all.

> I was here to read about simulators. I watched le mans, and if i really wanted
> to chat about it, i'd be on rec.autos.sport.misc

> Z.

> Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Mark Seer

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Mark Seer » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Why don't you just read the headers then and select your reading material
accordingly. I'm not a Nascar fan for instance so I simply mark Nascar
threads as ignore. Easy! It takes less than a second. Nobody forced  you
into this thread and nobody is twisting your arm behind your back. forcing
you either to read it or indeed to create a hostile environment within it. I
see no evidence any of problems to the average curteous person in residence
here. There are hundreds of people who post to this group and probably
thousands more who just lurk. It would appear that there is only one person
who is stamping his feet as a juvenile would when he can't get rhe right
colour ice cream. I have yet to come across a NG anywhere on the net where
an occasional O/T thread does not occur. Why? because there are grey areas
everywhere in life and many things are related to others.If you can only see
in black and white you have a real problem in life. Go read rec.autos.misc
for long enough and you will find an O/T thread in there eventually! You are
just being objectionable for the sake of it.

For my part this thread makes an interesting diversion from hearing the
hundredth person ask what the best FF wheel is. Go read some threads on sims
or better still how about a few copies of the Beano. You can always come
back here when grow up and have something positive to contribute.

Mark

Graeme Nas

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Graeme Nas » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

How big is it? If it's under 1Mb go ahead!

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash


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________________________________________________________________________________
           "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

                             (Calvin & Hobbes)

Gaul

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Gaul » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00




> >Relax, guys. We're here to have a good time, not? And that flip really
WAS
> > terrifying, after all.

> I was here to read about simulators. I watched le mans, and if i really
wanted
> to chat about it, i'd be on rec.autos.sport.misc

> Z.

So if you don't want to chat about it, then why did you type those words up
there?  Seems to me that it would have been pretty obvious from the header
that this thread wouldn't interest you, so why don't you just move on?  And
after all, its not like this is some totally irrelevant post about Kosovo or
gun-control or something...that might deserve some criticism on this group.
Face it, USENET and life isn't quite as ordered and convenient as it is in
your teletubbieland, to call attention to your email address.  :-)
Michele Vitarell

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Michele Vitarell » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I'd love to have a copy of the .avi.


Thanks in advance.

Michele.


> i can make an .AVI and mail it to you if you are interested ...

> McKafre De La Rosa

> Dan Belcher escribi en mensaje

> >Does anyone know when the accident might be re-shown?  I'm kinda interested
> in
> >seeing this one!

> >Dan Belcher
> >Team Racing Unlimited

Dan Belch

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by Dan Belch » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

SO F***ING WHAT?  Does anyone other than you really care if someone posts
something that relates to motorsports that's not on the computer?  No.  And if
you don't like it, no one says you have to read this thread....

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited

ymenar

Mercedes withdraw from Le Mans (too late)

by ymenar » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00


I see your from AO also...

Your a proud Usenet Anarchist I guess ?

Ever heard of structure ? Ever though that it can exist over the Internet
also ? Ever wondered why the heck does newsgroup have names that classify
themselves to spread the most topics people want to talk about ?

Read the r.a.s. FAQ, I would suggest.

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