rec.autos.simulators

by **Jim Barbier** » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:39:38

Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
TIA

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:20:06

> Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
> Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
> I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
> TIA

I would not think the demo is starforce infected, but a google search
might get you going.

cheers, uwe

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GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

by **John Smit** » Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:38:48

> On 23 Oct 2007 10:20:06 +0200, Uwe Schrkamp

> :>> Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
> :>> Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
> :>> I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
> :>> TIA
> :>>
> :>>
> :>
> :>I would not think the demo is starforce infected, but a google search
> :>might get you going.
> :>
> :>cheers, uwe

> I don't know for sure about that one but quite a few other demos have
> been showing up lately infected with starforce or securom. Supposedly
> makes it harder for the pirates to utilize the demo EXE to crack the
> full version. Of course even if you uninstall the demo you've still
> got the infection just like with the full copy. :-(

> me/2

Get GTR2 or Race 07 both are better imo, and no starforce!

by **Larr** » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:17:17

It is, and personally I would not touch it.

-Larry

>> Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
>> Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
>> I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
>> TIA

> I would not think the demo is starforce infected, but a google search
> might get you going.

> cheers, uwe

> --
> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

by **John Adam** » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:07:00

> Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
> Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
> I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
> TIA

You can get a Starforce removal tool from their website if you want to
check it out and then uninstall Starforce. But like has already been
said, buying GTR2 instead is the better option.

by **Ron** » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:54:11

I really don't see what all the hype and issues are over Starforce......
Would someone please tell me exactly what the problem is with "Starforce" ?
If it's a copyright issue... that prevents you from copying the original
disk, and circumvent the developers license requirements... I don't have an
issue with that, and neither should anyone else.

by **Bob Simpso** » Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:28:33

My guess is that there's an element who likes the applications to be
pirate-able and have spread rumours about horror stories to discourage
use of protection software. I have no proof of that and there is a
slight chance that there's been trouble with Starforce, but I doubt
it. I'd guess that the protection software has been tested enough
that it's known to not maliciously eat up people's computers.

by **Larr** » Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:58:51

Google: Starforce

Pack a lunch...

-Larry

>I really don't see what all the hype and issues are over Starforce......
> Would someone please tell me exactly what the problem is with "Starforce"
> ?
> If it's a copyright issue... that prevents you from copying the original
> disk, and circumvent the developers license requirements... I don't have
> an
> issue with that, and neither should anyone else.

>> Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
>> Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
>> I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
>> TIA

by **Larr** » Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:00:03

I guess that's why so many companies have dropped it from their products.

It's all the users fault!

I hate bullshit assumptions, and this is one of the worst one's.

> My guess is that there's an element who likes the applications to be
> pirate-able and have spread rumours about horror stories to discourage
> use of protection software. I have no proof of that and there is a
> slight chance that there's been trouble with Starforce, but I doubt
> it. I'd guess that the protection software has been tested enough
> that it's known to not maliciously eat up people's computers.

by **Ronald Stoeh** » Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:30:28

>> I really don't see what all the hype and issues are over Starforce......
>> Would someone please tell me exactly what the problem is with "Starforce" ?
>> If it's a copyright issue... that prevents you from copying the original
>> disk, and circumvent the developers license requirements... I don't have an
>> issue with that, and neither should anyone else.

> My guess is that there's an element who likes the applications to be
> pirate-able and have spread rumours about horror stories to discourage
> use of protection software. I have no proof of that and there is a
> slight chance that there's been trouble with Starforce, but I doubt
> it. I'd guess that the protection software has been tested enough
> that it's known to not maliciously eat up people's computers.

You're right. Software always works, dammit! And it's tested, too!

You're the perfect customer... ;)

l8er
ronny

by **Jim Barbier** » Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:48:56

My computer is not up to GTR2 and that is why I wanted to try GTR. Think
I'll pass on it.
However, I did buy RACE07 and really like it...even if I have to turn down
the graphics....a lot
Quick question on that subject.

My PC is a DELL P4 3.00 GHz with 2 GB RAM. Video card is ATI Radeon 9800 128
MB RAM with latest drivers.
Will an Nvidia card such as the Asus N8600GTS Silent (256 MB 8600 GTS) make
an appreciable difference in my ability to dial up the graphics level?

TIA

> Google: Starforce

> Pack a lunch...

> -Larry

>>I really don't see what all the hype and issues are over Starforce......
>> Would someone please tell me exactly what the problem is with "Starforce"
>> ?
>> If it's a copyright issue... that prevents you from copying the original
>> disk, and circumvent the developers license requirements... I don't have
>> an
>> issue with that, and neither should anyone else.

>>> Just downloaded the demo for GTR but reluctant to install because of
>>> Starforce copy protection. Is it safe to install the demo?
>>> I would appreciate any feedback about this issue.
>>> TIA

by **cosmo_kram..** » Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:52:49

Yes!

Your PC is faster than mine, except for your graphics card. Mine is a
Nvidia 6800 GT 256mb (several years old), and I'm able to run GTR2
with most graphic options on full or high. That ATI 9800 is
definitely a bottleneck at the moment for you.

by **John Adam** » Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:30:07

>I have no proof of that and there is a
> slight chance that there's been trouble with Starforce, but I doubt
> it.

Lots of proof out there that prove your doubts are wrong. Stopping
virtual DVD images from working is reason enough to not use it. I don't
use virtual drives but it's the principal of the matter that gets me
riled up. They have no right, legal or otherwise, to mess up utilities
like Daemon tools from working. There are legit reasons to use such
tools besides piracy. Starforce is not the only CP that messes up progs
like that but and they are all a poxy bastards for thinking they have
the right to hijack our PC's. There is strong evidence to suggest that
Starforce can cause burners to stop being able to burn too. In fact I
highly suspect Starforce of damaging tow of my burners. I have Starforce
installed right now but is the non optical drive version.

by **John Adam** » Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:33:30

> My computer is not up to GTR2 and that is why I wanted to try GTR. Think
> I'll pass on it.
> However, I did buy RACE07 and really like it...even if I have to turn down
> the graphics....a lot
> Quick question on that subject.

> My PC is a DELL P4 3.00 GHz with 2 GB RAM. Video card is ATI Radeon 9800 128
> MB RAM with latest drivers.
> Will an Nvidia card such as the Asus N8600GTS Silent (256 MB 8600 GTS) make
> an appreciable difference in my ability to dial up the graphics level?

> TIA

Yea, you just need a faster video card. If you can run Race07 you can
easily run GTR2. I have GTR and GTR2 and I don't think GTR2 has any more
hardware requirements than GTR2. But then I can't compare because I
refuse to install optical drive version of Starforce.

by **Rod** » Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:15:21

>Lots of proof out there that prove your doubts are wrong. Stopping
>virtual DVD images from working is reason enough to not use it. I don't
>use virtual drives but it's the principal of the matter that gets me
>riled up. They have no right, legal or otherwise, to mess up utilities
>like Daemon tools from working.

Maybe I'm running a different version of starforce to everyone
else, but I've not had DVD drives self-destruct and Daemon Tools
works perfectly fine for me.

There have been times that starforce has taken at least a minute
to validate a disk, particularly GTL, but that's as painful as
it's gotten for me at least.

Cheers,
Rod.

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