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GTR and Starforce

Uwe Schürkam

GTR and Starforce

by Uwe Schürkam » Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:20:12


> My PC is a DELL P4 3.00 GHz with 2 GB RAM. Video card is ATI Radeon 9800 128
> MB RAM with latest drivers.
> Will an Nvidia card such as the Asus N8600GTS Silent (256 MB 8600 GTS) make
> an appreciable difference in my ability to dial up the graphics level?

Yes, that'll make it fly ;-) Are you on AGP or PCI-E?

Cheers, uwe

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John Adam

GTR and Starforce

by John Adam » Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:02:32


> Maybe I'm running a different version of starforce to everyone
> else, but I've not had DVD drives self-destruct and Daemon Tools
> works perfectly fine for me.

> There have been times that starforce has taken at least a minute
> to validate a disk, particularly GTL, but that's as painful as
> it's gotten for me at least.

> Cheers,
> Rod.

There are a few different versions of Starforce so that may be why.
Perhaps it was only the early versions that were problematic. Even other
forms of copy protection have messed up Daemon Tools. I bought a game
recently that says right on the box that you may need to uninstall
Daemon Tools and it may not work with certain optical drives. If it says
that right on the box then obviously there are issues with CP. You think
it is right for the game publisher to think they have the right to force
someone to buy a new optical drive to run their game? There are lots of
posts out there showing Starforce has messed up Daemon Tools in the past.
John Adam

GTR and Starforce

by John Adam » Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:58:19

I just came across this post from a game developer and even he admits
Starforce can cause issues.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=100149

Rod

GTR and Starforce

by Rod » Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:17:28


>There are a few different versions of Starforce so that may be why.
>Perhaps it was only the early versions that were problematic. Even other
>forms of copy protection have messed up Daemon Tools. I bought a game
>recently that says right on the box that you may need to uninstall
>Daemon Tools and it may not work with certain optical drives. If it says
>that right on the box then obviously there are issues with CP. You think
>it is right for the game publisher to think they have the right to force
>someone to buy a new optical drive to run their game? There are lots of
>posts out there showing Starforce has messed up Daemon Tools in the past.

Oh, absolutely not. I'd much prefer that all my software was not
copy protected. I'm not defending Starforce at all, just giving
my experience of it on 3 different machines, 2 of them running
Daemon Tools.

Cheers,
Rod.

Rod

GTR and Starforce

by Rod » Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:19:21


>Yea, you just need a faster video card. If you can run Race07 you can
>easily run GTR2. I have GTR and GTR2 and I don't think GTR2 has any more
>hardware requirements than GTR2. But then I can't compare because I
>refuse to install optical drive version of Starforce.

I'm quite sure that GTR2 ran quicker on my PC at the time than
GTR did (provided you turned off changeable weather which I believe
has been mostly resolved).

Cheers,
Rod.

John Adam

GTR and Starforce

by John Adam » Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:16:54


> Oh, absolutely not. I'd much prefer that all my software was not
> copy protected. I'm not defending Starforce at all, just giving
> my experience of it on 3 different machines, 2 of them running
> Daemon Tools.

> Cheers,
> Rod.

OK. I have 4 PC's here and do have Starforce on two of them. I'm not
happy with that but I paid for the games and am going to play them, dammit.
Rod

GTR and Starforce

by Rod » Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:35



>> Oh, absolutely not. I'd much prefer that all my software was not
>> copy protected. I'm not defending Starforce at all, just giving
>> my experience of it on 3 different machines, 2 of them running
>> Daemon Tools.

>> Cheers,
>> Rod.

>OK. I have 4 PC's here and do have Starforce on two of them. I'm not
>happy with that but I paid for the games and am going to play them, dammit.

One of those was GTL which was Starforce infected, and now play the
GTR2 mod of it. Will be great when the other cars are converted. It's
also handy that GTR2 has a no-cd for offline play.

Cheers,
Rod.

Uwe Schürkam

GTR and Starforce

by Uwe Schürkam » Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:38:58


> also handy that GTR2 has a no-cd for offline play.

No-Cd patch also works fine for  online play AFAIK.

Cheers, uwe

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Rod

GTR and Starforce

by Rod » Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:10:06

On 29 Oct 2007 12:38:58 +0100, Uwe Schrkamp



>> also handy that GTR2 has a no-cd for offline play.

>No-Cd patch also works fine for  online play AFAIK.

Oh cool. Never really tried because all the other games I have
(even though you have a valid copy with valid key) still
don't like it. Sweet. :)

Cheers,
Rod.

John Adam

GTR and Starforce

by John Adam » Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:10:55


> Oh cool. Never really tried because all the other games I have
> (even though you have a valid copy with valid key) still
> don't like it. Sweet. :)

> Cheers,
> Rod.

That's probably because they have the anti-cheat program Punkbuster
which makes sure everyone is using unmodified files.

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