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Seeking full motion system

Johnny Larse

Seeking full motion system

by Johnny Larse » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:21:34

Hi

I'm seeking a full motion system for racing simulators. Does anyone know
here I can buy such as system or how to build one?

Thanks in advance
Johnny

Asgeir Nesoe

Seeking full motion system

by Asgeir Nesoe » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:39:13

http://www.force-dynamics.com/

Their stuff looks mightily impressive if you ask me.

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Gohan Ry

Seeking full motion system

by Gohan Ry » Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:16:41

Asgeir Nesoen Wrote:

I want one.

No.

I -need- one.

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Pierre Robitaill

Seeking full motion system

by Pierre Robitaill » Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:21:53


I tried one of these in Dubai last Feb., had me grinning for days:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/37676/a_racing_simulator

Their homepage:
http://www.hexatechracing.com

pdot..

Seeking full motion system

by pdot.. » Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:27:06

There are some awesome full motion platform systems out there!  For a
more reasonable approach to motion cueing check out:

http://www.ultraforcesim.com

The web site will be updated soon with pictures of the new products.
I've managed to take a lot of cost out of the design, so expect lower
prices for the UltraForce G-seats and G-cushions.

Pat Dotson
UltraForce Simulators




> > Hi

> > I'm seeking a full motion system for racing simulators. Does anyone know
> > here I can buy such as system or how to build one?

> > Thanks in advance
> > Johnny

> I tried one of these in Dubai last Feb., had me grinning for days:http://www.metacafe.com/watch/37676/a_racing_simulator

> Their homepage:http://www.hexatechracing.com

Byron Forbe

Seeking full motion system

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 06 Apr 2007 06:42:10




>> Hi

>> I'm seeking a full motion system for racing simulators. Does anyone know
>> here I can buy such as system or how to build one?

>> Thanks in advance
>> Johnny

> I tried one of these in Dubai last Feb., had me grinning for days:
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/37676/a_racing_simulator

> Their homepage:
> http://www.hexatechracing.com

    There is a point where it is idiotic to go to certain lengths in simming
instead of going and getting yourself an actual racecar, trailer and tow
bar - this is well past that point. Maybe if you live on the moon or in the
north or south pole..........................
pdot..

Seeking full motion system

by pdot.. » Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:23:59


I can see your point, Byron.  It's definitely valid.

Then again, I can tell you from running a simple one-kart racing
program, racing simulations offer a lot of bang-for-the-buck.  When I
finally got out of kart racing it wasn't because of the money.  The
problem is the incredible amount of time and effort required to field
any sort of race car.  The ratio of preparation and travel time v.
track time is huge.

With racing simulations you get all the seat time you can stand with
no tire bill, fuel bill, entry fees, hotel bill, ad nauseum.

Pat Dotson

Ed Medli

Seeking full motion system

by Ed Medli » Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:32:02







>>> Hi

>>> I'm seeking a full motion system for racing simulators. Does anyone know
>>> here I can buy such as system or how to build one?

>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Johnny

>> I tried one of these in Dubai last Feb., had me grinning for days:
>> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/37676/a_racing_simulator

>> Their homepage:
>> http://www.hexatechracing.com

>    There is a point where it is idiotic to go to certain lengths in
> simming instead of going and getting yourself an actual racecar, trailer
> and tow bar - this is well past that point. Maybe if you live on the moon
> or in the north or south pole..........................

I didn't see any pricing on the Hexatech site, but I did notice that they
even have car bodies for those monsters. I think you could easily purchase a
decent road racer for one of them..........:-) I think I might rather go the
less drastic route and talk to Pat first......:-)

Ed

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Pierre Robitaill

Seeking full motion system

by Pierre Robitaill » Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:16:29



I agree, but it all depends on the application you make
of it. In Dubai, they had two linked together in an
amu***t center. Price for a 15 minute ride was cheaper
than rental karts.

Steve Blankenshi

Seeking full motion system

by Steve Blankenshi » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 07:45:29




>>     There is a point where it is idiotic to go to certain lengths in
>>     simming
>> instead of going and getting yourself an actual racecar, trailer and
>> tow bar - this is well past that point. Maybe if you live on the moon
>> or in the north or south pole..........................

> I agree, but it all depends on the application you make
> of it. In Dubai, they had two linked together in an
> amu***t center. Price for a 15 minute ride was cheaper
> than rental karts.

Indeed; that level of equipment isn't targeted directly at consumers anyway,
but it intended for high-end arcade and corporate applications.  After all,
the bulk of the development on the Moog FCS platform itself was done for
customers like Boeing and Airbus.  Interesting tibdit was the bit about
Hexatech announcing that a freely downloadable demo of the sim software
would be available soon, so you can practice at home.  The screenshots are
nothing to write home about, but it could be interesting.  Wonder who's
doing the coding for them...

But forget the platform, I want the wheel.  Direct drive, 20NM of torque and
up to 5500 deg/sec?  I like my G25, but....  ;-)

SB

Pierre Robitaill

Seeking full motion system

by Pierre Robitaill » Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:59:48

"Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenshipATcomcast.net> wrote in

I know. :)
The company I work for, worked with Moog to help them develop
this motion platform. At one point, we were going to offer it
as part of a "cheaper" motion system on our entry-level
full-flight simulators. Not sure what happened though...

P Ga

Seeking full motion system

by P Ga » Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:16:24




> *Date:* Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:21:34 +0200

> Hi

> I'm seeking a full motion system for racing simulators. Does
> anyone know here I can buy such as system or how to build one?

<sarcastic mode on>

Yes......its called a car!

</sarcastic mode off>

Sorry, I'll get me coat.....

8-)

*Peter* -  http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

Asgeir Nesoe

Seeking full motion system

by Asgeir Nesoe » Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:50:33

This rig seems to be rather limited in terms of "full motion system",
since it never uses gravity to simulate braking and turning forces... It
just shifted back and forth and sideways, and this yields no feeling of
cornerning force or braking force.

If I'd want one, I'd go for a rig that gives me MORE feedback than just
sitting in front of the screen...

The stuff found at http://www.force-dynamics.com/ seems to be a better
deal, you can fit it in a normal medium sized room in a normal house
(hehe), oh did I forget: They have made a plugin for rFactor that pulls
out the physics engine data you need to simulate G-forces using gravity
to that purpose.

One of those with a G25 (which we all own in the first hand), and I
would spend a family-threatening amount of time in it, surely. This rig
is on my list right after the grand piano. :-D

---A---




>> Hi

>> I'm seeking a full motion system for racing simulators. Does anyone know
>> here I can buy such as system or how to build one?

>> Thanks in advance
>> Johnny

> I tried one of these in Dubai last Feb., had me grinning for days:
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/37676/a_racing_simulator

> Their homepage:
> http://www.hexatechracing.com

Plowbo

Seeking full motion system

by Plowbo » Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:54:02

Asgeir Nesoen enlightened us with:

How are you gonna sim on a grand piano?  Move it up on  your list AG, now.
:P

Pete

Seeking full motion system

by Pete » Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:19:25


Trouble is that force dynamics' rig was so damned expensive, originally
been advertised for 20,000 US dollars.  I notice now that I cannot seem
to find any kind of quoted price for the thing on their website.  Wonder
why? ;-)

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Pete Ives
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