rec.autos.simulators

I try to be polite when posting, and not denegrate anyone's work, but I am
really tired of spending PREMIUM prices for software from the industry's
top manufacturers and getting crap. CPR plays OK usually; if you can ever
get to the track. The menus often don't respond and you have to reload the
track every time you adjust your car. The enjoyment of racing soon
dissappears after wrestling with the menus to get from place to place. I
usually get disgusted and exit the game after about 10 minutes.
If you are planning to purchase MS CPR you should do yourself a favor and
wait and see if the expected patch fixes the program. (If anyone from
Microsoft is reading this: What's up with the patch, anyway--you didn't
have to wait several weeks for me to send you half of the money--where's
the other half of my program?).
CPR has great potential and I hope the folks at MS get everything worked
out, but for now the mere moments of pleasure I get from the game are
totally eclipsed by the aggravation of its cumbersome menus.
W. Spilman

Isn't that is the point of CPR?  Letting you to adjust your car settings?
In addition, there are setup files for your car, which you can download.
The point is that you have to fine-tune your car "before" you race.  That is
perparation.

--
Victor Chan

On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:34:07 -0500, "Victor Chan"

Don Chapman

 I have both the full versions of CPR and F1 racing and if you think CPR is
slow you better not try F1 cause CPR smokes in track loading compared to F1
hehe. But I love both and drive them both daily.I think its true that
software is being released earlier than it should but having come from
flight sims I have gotten used to it needing patches. Im not saying its
right though in some ways I think of us all as the final testers and I
think as long as the companies listen and respond well I can live with most
of the bugs for a short while.
Aloha, Mike

If you work on your car using "test drive" mode (toward the upper right
corner of the garage), rather than "race mode", then you only have to load
the track once. After returning to the garage to change your setup, going
back to the track in test drive mode is nearly instantaneous.

Since discovering this, I never go to the race menu until I am ready to
start a race weekend.

Jim Getzen

Unofficial CART Precision Racing HQ
http://members.home.net/getzen/

I agree.  I have 48 MB of RAM.  It does not take a lot of time for CPR to
reload the track.  Also, the track loading would be instantaneous if you
stick to the same track while you adjust the car.

--
Victor Chan

Hi,

Track loading is a couple of seconds if that and is 'reloaded' regardless of
changing any setup.

I think the advertising mentions that you can download the actual times and
setups for the most current CART racing seasons.
I definatly remeber seeing about 2 months ago but it is not in the game. It
would more than likely be implemented into the Zone,
and just be a pointer to the CART racing website.

Best Regards

Trevor Dwyer

Well said, mate. It's a shame I've already bought this crap. The scum bag
sales man who sold it to me by telling me it's as good, if not better than
GP2, can kiss my arse.

I have an idea. Wouldn't it be good for racing sims to display a rating
derived from votes and comments from rec.autos.simulators.

I bet the programmers would worry more about selling us crap.

Rob
"Dead Meat"

Well this is all kinda confusing did I get the only good CPR in stock<ggg>
I swear this sim is pretty dang good by me. I get 27-35fps the car was a
little twitchy at first but hey show me one that isn't. The menus load
quick the folks that developed it ARE trying to fix the bugs that people
have pointed out. The race engineer is really a cool tool for folks
starting out and a good way to see what would be changed to produce what
results. Sorry I dont mean to get preachy but, it seems like an awful lot
of whining. Does the new vaulted F1rs have ANY bugs? I just wonder if I
were a sim developer and had obviously put a ton of work into trying to
give folks like us what they want and read the flames here if I wouldn't
just give it up. I say they did quite well and they are TRYING to do even
better. We were given a good Demo to try if we couldn't live with the bugs
till a patch then why buy the game? All Im saying here is please give the
CPR flames a rest. I have F1rs, CPR, & ICR2 all of them have problems and
it will be great if all is fixed but hey I love them all. We are very lucky
to have them IMHO. Aloha, Mike

Sorry Mike, but with all due respect it is precisely the above sort of
attitude that will ensure unfinished and buggy software continues to
be released rather than fixed.

How many other industries are allowed to ship products in this
condition? The attitude is take your money now and then _maybe_ fix it
later (or maybe not). If you think that is acceptable, I've got some
SIMMs I'd like to sell you - they have some bit errors in them which
cause your PC to crash now and again, but if you'll give me the money
I'll look for some replacement DRAMs and replace the defective chips
for you later... Doesn't work, does it?

Ever wonder why Playstation or Nintendo software works first time?
Could it be that you can't patch those? You either get it right the
first time or the product sinks and dies - the same way it used to be
in the PC software industry. With consoles the risk in releasing
unfinished or buggy software is massively increased, and the software
releases reflect that. With PC software we are currently making the
bed we'll have to lie in.

Cheers!
John

I have a question:

thanks

 Hi, Just type FRAME while in sim and a fps counter will appear in lower
right corner. Also more codes available like BRAVO fixes when the AI bump
you it dosent throw you off course so badly.More type codes at some of the
CPR sites.