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A couple of things I noticed about the AI:

- They race damn good. They're agressive, if I made a small mistake in
a corner I immediately got passed by the AI, and they defend well.

- After 10 laps there was a yellow flag caused by the AI.
My tires were still ok, I was leading, did not want to lose my
position so I did not pit. All the AI did though, so my decision was
bad, when the green flag came I was in the lead but had not enough
fuel to finish the race and all the AI had fresh tires.

But after a lap or 10 there was a yellow flag again. I pitted, and to
my surprise so did all the AI again. They had enough fuel to finish
the race, it would have been much more clever from them to stay on the
track, since now I still stayed in the lead. Bad move I think.. have
to test more but I don't think the AI is really good in calculating
when (not) to pit considering the circumstances.

- After the 2nd yellow, there were a couple of cars in front of me who
were 1 lap down. I passed them easily, they were slow, but the rest of
the pack stayed behind them. After 50 laps I won with nr.2 still being
stuck behind the backmarkers, I had about 15 seconds margin on nr.2
after the finish.
Weird, since the AI has no problems in passing me as soon as I slow
down the slightest bit.

- While driving under yellow, I got rammed from behind by the AI at
high speed. The AI did not slow down while I was driving behind the
pacecar.

These weak points from the AI don't seem too hard to fix imho.. hope
this will be issued in a patch.

Andre

Gerald

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I remember that game too!  Once I forgot to change my setup from Talladega
when I went to Sears Point in a championship season and I think I still
won! :)

John

    John DiFool

Maybe the AI is modeled after M Waltrip?  Hell, even Benny Parsons on TV
will GUESS wrong with  low# of laps to go, "and you wont see any of the
leaders pit" 1/2 lap later, "Well!! Michael Waltrip is pitting!?! out of
second place, and he's the only one !" (you can hear the "WTF" in his voice
too...  LOL).

So clever these papy guys ya know  ;)

Well another 50 lap race at Coca Cola yesterday.
The race that I told you about was set to 80% AI strength (stop
laughing) and yesterday I set the strength to 90% (stop it I said).

Qualified 22nd, had a fantastic race with this time a perfectly
behaving AI, and after a wrecknerving race with many position changes
and 5 yellows (caused by.. err.. me) I finished 22nd (STOP LAUGHING!!)

Can't wait to get home from work for my next race :)

Andre

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I hate that.  I'm amazed Papy hasn't found a workaround for that yet,
since every one of their sims has had that same problem.  Which is why
you can win a Grand Prix length race in GPL even if you're 5 seconds
off the pace of the leaders just because they all bunch up behind the
slower cars.

Darn it.  So far I haven't seen that, but it was a common AI bug in
Nascar 4.  I was really hoping they'd fixed that, although it does
seem somewhat less common, at least on the tracks I race

Jason

David G Fisher

So far it happened only once now in about 10 hours of racing, so
indeed it doesn't seem to happen very oft.
But frustrating though when it happens :-/

Yesterday I got hit by the AI again. 21th lap at Coca Cola, I was
third (AI at 90%, I'm improving :)) and while entering a corner the AI
touched me from behind. Within 0.0001 second I was driving headon into
the wall.. with damage at full realistic setting, not much of my car
was left after that :-/
It seems like an error that could happen in real life though, not a
complaint about the AI.

Andre

Redneck!

Remco

I can tell you exactly what they'll do when you leave the bottom open:
blow right by you as they should.  I did this coming out of the pits
for a unscheduled stop (still couldn't get the car up to speed,
eventually I retired from the race - sort of black flagged myself for
traveling at Kirk Shelmerdine like speeds) and figured I'd get killed
staying in the low groove so I went high and watched as all the pretty
cars went by...