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N4 Driving View

Alexpe

N4 Driving View

by Alexpe » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:15:39

you think when youre strapped into a race car you can lean forward to get a
better view?

Its accurate as hell, they really cant see much.

pez

> What did he say about the***pit view?  Is there a link or can you copy
and
> paste the text?

> Thanks,

> Marc.




> > > I was not aware that DE Jr. commented on the***pit view.

> > Well he did, be sure of that ;-)

> > N4 is 99.5% like reality.  Everything some people have problems with
> (small
> >***pit view, pull to the left) is things that real-life WC driver cope
up
> > each week.

> > > Don't assume because he praised the overall physics and design of the
> game
> > (which are
> > > great) that everything is perfect or as good as it could be.  Or that
a
> > few
> > > more options couldn't be offered.

> > Perfection will never be achieved with a software that simulates a real
> > thing.  Only the real thing will achieve such thing.  The only way a
> > software like N4 can be "perfect" is if it models a totally unique
series
> > proper to it's own virtual environment.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...
> > -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise
how
> > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Marc Collin

N4 Driving View

by Marc Collin » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:01:02

What other customer opinions are they listening to instead?  Please
illuminate us.

By the way you still haven't answered my question about the supposed flaws
in GPL 1.0 from the Martinsville thread.

Marc.



> > Well, it is feedback he's giving - how else is Papyrus going to know
> > what their customers want?

> Yeah, I'm sure those Papy guys read this NG everyday and consider it as
the
> premium of customer opinions ;-)    "Oh, look that Marc guy has a good
> point, N4 is quite crappy we'll need to patch it for his needs".

> > And real race car drivers don't stare at
> > computer monitors to drive, so displaying a race car driver's actual
> > field of view probably isn't the best idea for a game since our
> > peripheral vision is filled with speakers, lamps, a stack of cd's,
> > clothes on the floor, hmmm ... time to do laundry.

> LOL ;-)

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Glockenspie

N4 Driving View

by Glockenspie » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:18:49

Man, you sure *** a lot.................

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:39:51 GMT, "Marc Collins"


>I was not aware that DE Jr. commented on the***pit view.  Don't assume
>because he praised the overall physics and design of the game (which are
>great) that everything is perfect or as good as it could be.  Or that a few
>more options couldn't be offered.

>Marc.

Ray

N4 Driving View

by Ray » Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:20:14

I don't have N4 yet, but I wonder if the old trick from N2 would
work?
(I wasn't a fan of the dash cam either in the N4 demo...)

In N2, you could unpack the DAT files.  I used it to redo the color of
the dash gauges - basically they were PCX files overlaid ontop of the
background.  You could just nuke the dash.  You might have gauges
floating in nomans land and the silly shifter still, but a bit better
vision.

Ray


> The***pit view is extremely restrictive.  It may be an accurate
> representation of a photograph of the view while sitting in a WC car, but it
> is a damned inferior view to try to sim. race from.  In real life, we don't
> have to push buttons to flail our heads from one side to the other to get a
> bit better perspective.  We can also lean forward or backward a bit to see
> past the gigantic A pillar...like you need to do to navigate the curved pit
> lanes.

> The bumper cam is a far more dramatic and useful view, but it is useless to
> race in traffic as you are down at bumper level.  Unless you want to
> simulate racing in your car with only tractor trailer sized opponents, it is
> dangerous and ineffective as you can't see up the track any further than the
> next rear bumper in front of you.


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