rec.autos.simulators

> Well he did, be sure of that ;-)

> N4 is 99.5% like reality.  Everything some people have problems with
(small
>***pit view, pull to the left) is things that real-life WC driver cope up
> each week.

> > Don't assume because he praised the overall physics and design of the
game
> (which are
> > great) that everything is perfect or as good as it could be.  Or that a
> few
> > more options couldn't be offered.

> Perfection will never be achieved with a software that simulates a real
> thing.  Only the real thing will achieve such thing.  The only way a
> software like N4 can be "perfect" is if it models a totally unique series
> proper to it's own virtual environment.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

> >well, if Dale Jr says this is the way it is, then that is enough for me.
I
> >dont know how much moving and looking around you can do strapped into a
> >harness but it aint much

> Are you going to have some sort of heater blasting you in the face the
> whole time and have the volume at ear-damaging levels as well?  I hate
> to think what you do to yourself if you wreck...  :)

> Seriously, there is plenty of "sim" in the physics engine.  I don't
> need to irritate myself with an inferior view of the game just for
> "realism's" sake.

> Paul the Cat  =^..^=

> "We've been sleeping all our lives --
> At last we can open our eyes."
>              -- Carly Simon

> >That is if you don't mind be kept out of a whole lot of online races and
> >leagues =)

> Why would it matter which race view you used?

> Paul the Cat  =^..^=

> "We've been sleeping all our lives --
> At last we can open our eyes."
>              -- Carly Simon

> --
> Mike Grandy
> Precision Racing
> www.precision-racing.com


> > The***pit view is extremely restrictive.  It may be an accurate
> > representation of a photograph of the view while sitting in a WC car,
but
> it
> > is a damned inferior view to try to sim. race from.  In real life, we
> don't
> > have to push buttons to flail our heads from one side to the other to
get
> a
> > bit better perspective.  We can also lean forward or backward a bit to
see
> > past the gigantic A pillar...like you need to do to navigate the curved
> pit
> > lanes.

> > The bumper cam is a far more dramatic and useful view, but it is useless
> to
> > race in traffic as you are down at bumper level.  Unless you want to
> > simulate racing in your car with only tractor trailer sized opponents,
it
> is
> > dangerous and ineffective as you can't see up the track any further than
> the
> > next rear bumper in front of you.

> > What we need is a bumper cam-style view moved up and back to simulate
the
> > position of the driver's seat in the car, or, a view that is a bit more
> > forgiving inside the***pit (my preference) that recognises that we
have
> > extremely limited mobility and perspective sitting "outside" the screen
in
> > our computer chairs.

> > What are the chances that either of these can be accomplished by fans
> > interested in modifying the original (as is already happening with new
> cars,
> > etc.)?

> > Marc.

> > --

> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> > to take effect. Reboot now?

> | N4 is 99.5% like reality.

> >Because most of the races I've seen have 'force***pit view' on.

> (sigh)

> I guess it just wouldn't do to let people choose their own point of
> view.  If I came upon a race like that, I'd find another where the
> host had a little more respect for his fellow racers.

> Paul the Cat  =^..^=

> "We've been sleeping all our lives --
> At last we can open our eyes."
>              -- Carly Simon

> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> to take effect. Reboot now?

>This is one of those subjects that there is no answer to :)

> >It has nothing to do with respect.  It has everything to do with the host
> >wanting a realistic, even race.

> >This is one of those subjects that there is no answer to :)

> Yes it is, and that's why, rather than argue about it, you just move
> along to another race.

> Paul the Cat  =^..^=

> "We've been sleeping all our lives --
> At last we can open our eyes."
>              -- Carly Simon

>The debate continues  ;)