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> Goy,
> "Developed" only in respect of technological upkeep, yes.
> In all other respects, F1 has regressed to a point where watching paint dry,
> or a chess game, is about as absorbing.
Well, I'm not *nearly* as old as you are Bruce :-), so I'm afraid my
experience with F1 is of the latter as I only started to watch during
the mid 80's some time, we didn't get the races on TV here before that,
other than that I've only read about it, and I have actually read about
the earlier era as I enjoy reading about history, and motorsport history
more than most other forms of history
Although I have attended a couple of historic race meeting as
Nurburgring, so I'm not totally oblivious to what racing cars used to be
like before TV :-)
I'm not arguing that Monaco doesn't have it's place in F1 history, I'm
just arguing that under the current technichal regulations, it's a waste
of 2 hours on a Sunday where one could do something better but still
sits there and watches with a faint hope that it might actually turn
into a half decent race, like it did when the rain started to fall back
in 97 (?) when Olivier Panis drove a storming race and finished at the
pointy end of the filed in a Ligier, which sort of disproves my comment
about there not havong been a decent race there for 20-30 years, but
even a blind nut finds a squirrel every now and then......:-)
What I'm trying to get at, if they're not going to do something about
the cars, and clearly they are not since turning the clock back on
regulations and tech development is all but impossible, then they need
to do something about the tracks, and as far as I'm conscerned, they
should start with Monaco, I only followed the top 8 as TV as usual don't
grasp that there may be some racing going on further back in the field,
but they could be right this time of course, and between those in the
top 8 there wasn't a single pass made, nor was there a serious attempt
at a pass, at least they attempt at most of the other tracks
There doesn't have to be a ton of passes to make a good race, CART
introduced the Hansford device a couple yyears back and I remember
watching the 500 at Michigan (?), they did like 4 passes for the lead
every lap, that's not no fun to watch, an attempt at a pass can be just
as much fun to watch as a completed pass, although the kind of passes
that Hakkinen did on Schumi at Spa a couple of years ago is better than
ateempted pass :-), but there needs to be some on the track racing going
on, because quite frankly watching these aerodynamic wonders going
through a corner isn't much fun
Jim Clarck going through a corner in a Lotus Cortina (I've seen footage
of that) is fun to watch and I could probabky spend a whole day watching
cars going through corners like that even if there wasn't a single pass
attempted or made and still feel I'd gotten my money's worth, but with
modern F1 cars.....I need some racing, and tracks like Moncao does not
provide that
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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>>You hit it on the head - it's the money. Monaco is where all the big sponsor
>>cheeses go to ponce around each year. For me it's the most boring race of
>>the year - strange that the drivers seem to like it a lot. Scandalous when
>>you think that Spa has gone and A1 will next year.
>The F3000 race at Monaco was pretty good...<g>
Ruud van Gaal
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Kiesa's trophy. :)
dave henrie
You can't pass. You can't race with each other. It's like having all your
ducks in a row, too literally.
-Larry
> > > Having someone besides Ferrari up front at the start has certainly
> > > made the races more interesting so far. First time I've actually felt
> > > obliged to tune in to a live racecast.
> > But that hasn't happened!
> > Ferrari has won pole at Australia, Brazil, San Marino, Spain and
Austria.
> > They only missed out in Malaysia, and are likely to win pole today!
> > Also, the Minardis have invariably been at the back.
> While the latter is certainly true today, bar Jenson Button who had to
> sit out the qual, the former isn't and had it been any other track it
> might have made for an interesting race, now it will be a parade with
> car in front with another color besides red
> For the life of me I can't understand the reasoning for keeping Monaco
> in there when there are much better tracks who would rightly be much
> more deserving of an F1 race, other than the monetary issue I mean, all
> the rich poseurs gather at Monaco this time of the year and we don't
> dare upset the money people now do we....
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
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> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--
I guess he studied the Mark Martin Method of Winning (Not).
-Larry
> >You hit it on the head - it's the money. Monaco is where all the big
sponsor
> >cheeses go to ponce around each year. For me it's the most boring race
of
> >the year - strange that the drivers seem to like it a lot. Scandalous
when
> >you think that Spa has gone and A1 will next year.
> The F3000 race at Monaco was pretty good...<g>
> Eldred
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> >>You hit it on the head - it's the money. Monaco is where all the big sponsor
> >>cheeses go to ponce around each year. For me it's the most boring race of
> >>the year - strange that the drivers seem to like it a lot. Scandalous when
> >>you think that Spa has gone and A1 will next year.
> >The F3000 race at Monaco was pretty good...<g>
> The ending was mindbogglingly stupid though. ;-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
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"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
>> >>You hit it on the head - it's the money. Monaco is where all the big sponsor
>> >>cheeses go to ponce around each year. For me it's the most boring race of
>> >>the year - strange that the drivers seem to like it a lot. Scandalous when
>> >>you think that Spa has gone and A1 will next year.
>> >The F3000 race at Monaco was pretty good...<g>
>> The ending was mindbogglingly stupid though. ;-)
>He's Swedish.......
Once I thought only an *intelligent* and talented driver could win a
championship (because of strategies etc), but now I'm not so sure. :)
Ruud van Gaal
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> In my experience, Swedish people are very friendly. Very social, a bit
> TOO social it seems at times when you'd think intelligence should
> prevail. ;-)
> Once I thought only an *intelligent* and talented driver could win a
> championship (because of strategies etc), but now I'm not so sure. :)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
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"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
>> The ending was mindbogglingly stupid though. ;-)
>He's Swedish.......
With all that practice you should get out of all that oil you've got
there you'd think you could muster up someone a little bit better than
Tommy Rustad, heh... :-)
P.S. Please everyone call Mr. Larsen and his compatriots by their real
names from now on: not norwegians, but _norrbagge_, in plural:
_norrbaggar_. D.S. :o)
Heh, all publicity is good publicity. And that's a lot of publicity he
got!
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:23:28 +0200, Goy Larsen
> >> >The F3000 race at Monaco was pretty good...<g>
> >> The ending was mindbogglingly stupid though. ;-)
> >He's Swedish.......
> Hey, Heyyy!... Just because you norrbaggar have a hot rally ace right
> now, it doesn't mean you can take the***out of our racing guys! ;-)
> With all that practice you should get out of all that oil you've got
> there you'd think you could muster up someone a little bit better than
> Tommy Rustad, heh... :-)
> P.S. Please everyone call Mr. Larsen and his compatriots by their real
> names from now on: not norwegians, but _norrbagge_, in plural:
> _norrbaggar_. D.S. :o)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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