Sean
I think it was more of a sales issue. Sierra released one of those
reall world driver teaching sims and I don't think too many folks went for
for it
J.R.
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So, the next time junior is racing on the computer instead of
This is something I'm passionate about, with a definitive "yes" to the value
of training young people on sims.
FYI, I have several years rallying experience, and have been involved in
defensive driving and training programs for young drivers. Its amazing how
many times I've turned up at the training track and seen the following
scenario:
A young driver turns up who is confident because he got a good pass on
his/her driving test. They are given practical "before and after" tests. In
the "before" test, at the start of the day, they are asked asked to drive
down the road at moderate speed, then dodge around some witches' hats that
represent a sudden obstacle ahead. Their reaction is to throw on full lock,
hit the brakes, and understeer into the obstacle.
Giving kids experience with semi-realistic sims/games will make them
understand quickly about oversteer, understeer, balance and general car
control at the limit. The really important thing is that it will become a
reflex action in a real emergency, without them realising it.
Even better would be a compulsary real life training day, say within a year
of getting a learner's permit, before a full licence could be obtained.
However, practicing online will save lives.
Tim
I got my license in July, and a week after I got it, it began to rain one
day coming home with my friend. I went around a busy, hard left, off camber,
at like 20 mph and felt the car start to come away early. I started getting
on the gas but the back end just whipped around. I was facing the car
dealership on the other side of the road, but my foot was to the floor, with
full opposite lock, and I saved it without hurling the car to the other side
of the road, crossing the center line, or hitting the curb.
It's made me a safer driver and helped me become competitive in racing
instantly. I never had to learn what was right and what was wrong when
driving a car...I always knew confidently before I hopped in.
Thanks,
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Driving sims and real life driving are bearly even similar.
Have you ever given thought as to why you might be still alive?
I have a 3D card, thank you. It doesn't change the fact that you are
staring at a plane of pixels which are all the same (close) distance from
your face. A lot of routine activities in daily life are influenced by
experience. If you "teach" the muscles of your cornea that the activity of
driving is associated with a focal length of about 2 feet, then it is not
too far-fetched to think that this bad habit can occasionally creep into
real-life driving. Perhaps I overstate the problem, by I do occasionally
find I need to consciously think to look further up the road, especially if
the ratio of sim to real driving swings too far towards the former (I
commute by train and really only drive on weekends). And I do wear glasses.
> > I find it has screwed up my focus. Although I am looking way "down the
> > road" in sims, I am still focusing on a point about two feet in front of
> my
> > face (the monitor). Often on the road for real I find myself focusing
too
> > close to the car...
>> Get a 3D card. That makes a big difference.
>> If that doesn't work for you, there's a wonderful technology that corrects
>> your vision problems. They're worn on the face on the bridge of the
>> nose....I think they're called...gl...glasses?
>I have a 3D card, thank you. It doesn't change the fact that you are
>staring at a plane of pixels which are all the same (close) distance from
>your face. A lot of routine activities in daily life are influenced by
>experience. If you "teach" the muscles of your cornea that the activity of
>driving is associated with a focal length of about 2 feet, then it is not
>too far-fetched to think that this bad habit can occasionally creep into
>real-life driving. Perhaps I overstate the problem, by I do occasionally
>find I need to consciously think to look further up the road, especially if
>the ratio of sim to real driving swings too far towards the former (I
>commute by train and really only drive on weekends). And I do wear glasses.
John DiFool
Regards,
Rich
> > Get a 3D card. That makes a big difference.
> > If that doesn't work for you, there's a wonderful technology that
corrects
> > your vision problems. They're worn on the face on the bridge of the
> > nose....I think they're called...gl...glasses?
> I have a 3D card, thank you. It doesn't change the fact that you are
> staring at a plane of pixels which are all the same (close) distance from
> your face. A lot of routine activities in daily life are influenced by
> experience. If you "teach" the muscles of your cornea that the activity
of
> driving is associated with a focal length of about 2 feet, then it is not
> too far-fetched to think that this bad habit can occasionally creep into
> real-life driving. Perhaps I overstate the problem, by I do occasionally
> find I need to consciously think to look further up the road, especially
if
> the ratio of sim to real driving swings too far towards the former (I
> commute by train and really only drive on weekends). And I do wear
glasses.
> > > I find it has screwed up my focus. Although I am looking way "down
the
> > > road" in sims, I am still focusing on a point about two feet in front
of
> > my
> > > face (the monitor). Often on the road for real I find myself focusing
> too
> > > close to the car...
I find this connection very unlikely. If you're implying that your focusing
habit makes you look at where you'd have monitor screen, you would be
focusing on your windshield, meaning that you wouldn't be able to
really see where you're going, which I hope is not the case ;-)
To me it looks more likely that you're just focusing on the road too close
to the car just because that's how you learned to drive (most people do
it that way) and haven't translated [sim-]racing habit of looking further
into road driving. I've noticed that I started to look further in a road
car only when I discovered that that non-transparent thing between
the windshield and side window really obstructs view in the corners:)
Alex.