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N4=CRAP...IMO

Andrew Britto

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Andrew Britto » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:56:28

T-Bird 1.1ghz, Asus A7V, 256mb Ram, Herc Proph2 Ultra 64mb, SB Live, WinME,
DX8

Install went flawless
Sound is excellent
Framerates at 1280x960x16

Framerates from 40's at start of race, rear of field to 100+ with a few cars
in view.
I use OpenGL or D3D...both work fine.

Guess I got lucky.

Andrew B.

Olav K. Malm

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Olav K. Malm » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:46:41


> pull out N4 cd-crush N4 cd case-thrash N4 manual against desk-curse Papy for
> all they're worth-vow to distribute this piece of shit freely to all
> interested parties-settled down and ran 100 laps at Daytona-on Nascar


I think blaming Papy for your ill-configured unstable system
is stretching it a bit far :)

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ymenar

N4=CRAP...IMO

by ymenar » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:51:51


> My personal experience so far:

With a screename like that, no wonder you can't configure your PC to run
correctly.

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18pAC

N4=CRAP...IMO

by 18pAC » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:28:37

"sounds like you have a lousy computer to me" - Future (or current) software
tech support dipshit...
Olav K. Malm

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Olav K. Malm » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:19:21


> "sounds like you have a lousy computer to me" - Future (or current) software
> tech support dipshit...

Don't underestimate a messed up system. I had a bit of trouble with
Half-Life the other week with long loading times. It was never a
problem before, and it was the same CD. So what could be the
difference then, apart from a difference in system hardware and
configuration ?

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Ken Bear

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Ken Bear » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:34:43

DoN't MoCk M3

oR I WiLl hax0r j00

:-)

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> > My personal experience so far:

> With a screename like that, no wonder you can't configure your PC to run
> correctly.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

ymenar

N4=CRAP...IMO

by ymenar » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:57:43


> DoN't MoCk M3
> oR I WiLl hax0r j00

d00d u aR3 s0 31337!

`;-)

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Dog-Le

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Dog-Le » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:03:41

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I had hard lockups in Win2K, but not Win98...

-Larry


> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:42:32 -0500, "chainbreaker"




> >> >My personal experience so far:

> >> >first installation N4 insists on installing a very unstable DX8.0.

> >> I didn't take it's advice and left DX7 on my system as mentioned
> >> here in this newsgroup. Maybe you should stop by more often.

> >> >N4 never runs.

> >> Mine screams.

> >> >Uninstall and full re-install-N4 "tests" vid card and forces me into
> >OpenGL!

> >> Incorrect. You have a CHOICE of D3D/OGL, unless of course you
> >> screwed your system by plopping DX8 on it.

> >Well, I have a choice on my screwed system running DX8, the only
restriction
> >being that if I run OGL, which I do because its faster than D3D, I have
to
> >reduce my desktop  to high color before I can run at 16bit depth.

> >N4 seems to be extremely stable in both graphics modes--I've experienced
not
> >so much as a hiccup from it at all.  So far, anyway.  It's by far the
nicest
> >racing sim out of the box I've ever experienced.

> I agree. I think Papy has a winner here.

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N4=CRAP...IMO

by Dog-Le » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:05:37

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Has anyone else noticed that when it comes to start up problems with N4, the
term "Old Toshiba CD-ROM Drive" seems to come up a lot?

Maybe there is something to this...

-Larry


> I installed N4 and (foolishly?) let it install DX8.  I insert N4 CD, click
> on run, get hourglass for a few seconds, then nothing.  Installed latest
VIA
> 4 in 1 drivers per prior post, then installed latest V3 drivers.  Still

> now isn't and asn old Toshiba CD-ROM.  Game will not boot.  Demo ran fine
as
> did GPL, GP3

> Anyone gotten past this yet?????




> > >first installation N4 insists on installing a very unstable DX8.0.

> > I haven't picked up N4 yet, but I've been using DX8 since I bought
> > Mechwarrior 4 (which requires it), and it's fine.
> > Since you already have 8, maybe you should try snagging 8a.
> > If the sim is alternately saying you can/can't run in D3D mode, I'd be
> > concentrating on the video drivers.

> > Tim

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Pierre Legra

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Pierre Legra » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:12:22

Yup thats me as well....Dx8 is installed and has been since it came
out. Never had a problem and still dont have a problem.

Dx fears are starting to look alot like boogy man stories...

PAPA DOC

>>I didn't take it's advice and left DX7 on my system as mentioned
>>here in this newsgroup. Maybe you should stop by more often.

>Not sure we can blame DX8 either.  I already had it installed, so
>didn't install it  from N4.  I ran N4 last night for over 2 hours
>straight without any problems.  (other than I do have a Kenwood CDrom,
>had to get the bios update) after that though, it was smooth sailing.
>Not one lockup, crash, or graphic hitch.   No problems detecting my
>LWFF, or calibrating it.  Overall, I'm very pleased with N4 thus far.
>Andy



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Pierre Legra

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Pierre Legra » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:15:12

Sounds like the user in question may need to peruse his driver configs
a bit more carefully....probably the problem lies in that area. For
instance does the young man have Dx 8 drivers loaded for his V3..?
What are his V3 settings...? What type of sound card does the young
man have and what drivers does he have....? Is he one of those clever
lads that runs all those neat little programs like cachman...and
such...? So many questions....none of them revolving around something
that is proven to work. Dx8.

PAPA DOC

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Pierre Legra

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Pierre Legra » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:17:03

The same can be said of 7a...now cant it...? So of course the wise man
keeps up in the driver department or buys a console.

PAPA DOC

>I guess 8 wasn't quite the epitome of stable, then...

>Marc.




>> >There's an 8a? There was a 7a, but I haven't heard of an 8a.

>> Yes, 8a is out. Check here:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/directx/

>> Tim

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Jag

N4=CRAP...IMO

by Jag » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:19:41


spoke:

Don't know about that. It was an older 32x Toshiba drive that solved
my problems with copy protected cdroms. Got it for free from a friend
too.
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Jagg

madd..

N4=CRAP...IMO

by madd.. » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:08:56

You're smart.



> My personal experience so far:

> first installation N4 insists on installing a very unstable DX8.0.
> N4 never runs.
> Uninstall and full re-install-N4 "tests" vid card and forces me into
OpenGL!
> Then after 40 seconds n4 final starts up and sends me into the "new
player"
> screen where it refuses to let me enter my name and eventually
requires a
> cold boot because in OpenGL mode the system is locked
> Uninstall and reinstall-N$ now accepts Direct 3d and allows me to
enter name
> I go to set up nascar sprint racing wheel-N4 does not recognize brake
pedal
> I exit and launch Game controller and system locks up.
> Cold boot time again-
> Finally get wheel config'ed and double click N4 icon-DVD-ROM drive
spins for
> about 60 seconds and nothin else happens.
> Reboot-
> Launmch N4 and 60 seconds later the sierra splash screen appears and
I get
> to see a neat little movie ala Nascar Revolution
> Finally I get to Daytona-jum[p in for a few practice laps and mash
that gas
> pedal and car does not respond-back to options where i find my wheel's
> configuration is gone-re-config
> and get back to the track and actually run a few hot laps!
> Go to qualify at 99% and get in the top 25
> Start race-frametate around 12-15 (PIII-450 no o'c Voodoo3) round
turn 1 and
> system freezes up-can't ctrl-alt-del cant cycle power switch-must
actually
> unplug system!

> pull out N4 cd-crush N4 cd case-thrash N4 manual against desk-curse
Papy for
> all they're worth-vow to distribute this piece of shit freely to all
> interested parties-settled down and ran 100 laps at Daytona-on Nascar


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madd..

N4=CRAP...IMO

by madd.. » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:11:13

Know your computer if you intend to own one.  If you don't, go check
out those really rad sims on Playstation2!! :;)



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