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Also, in response to the post by rrevved, everyone is intitled to
his/her opinion...    Some people just have a immature way of showing
it.  Your response to a legitimate question/concern about GPal
rrevved, shows it up well...
Regards,
Ron

Hi rrevved, the immaturity level was asigned to you simply because of
your need to flame a couple of legitimate ***ies regarding the use of
GPal when interacted with VROC/SpyBoy, with an objective description of
the parentage of the guys in question...
If you don't race on-line through VROC, then by all means GPal should
suit your needs perfectly.
Cheers,
Ron

No more messing with INI files is singularly worth the download.
It's my understanding that GPaL isn't designed to replace VROC or GSB, it's
an interface for quickly and easily adjusting the game settings for whatever
you require, eg. graphics settings can be altered from a dropdown list to
suit either training, online or offline racing, Core.ini files can be
selected to suit different hosting purposes.

IMHO GPaL will be a bonus to the already great GPL and can only help people
to get more from the sim.
It may not be essential but will be a great advantage.

Keep up the good work Jack !!!!
--
Ian Parker

ICQ   21772592

No more messing with INI files is singularly worth the download.
It's my understanding that GPaL isn't designed to replace VROC or GSB, it's
an interface for quickly and easily adjusting the game settings for whatever
you require, eg. graphics settings can be altered from a dropdown list to
suit either training, online or offline racing, Core.ini files can be
selected to suit different hosting purposes.

IMHO GPaL will be a bonus to the already great GPL and can only help people
to get more from the sim.
It may not be essential but will be a great advantage.

Keep up the good work Jack !!!!
--
Ian Parker

ICQ   21772592

And just from the single screen shot I've seen, it looks incredibly
useful. As a user interface designer myself I know how much thought
and expertise goes into making an efficient, clean user interface.
There are many mamy ways to do it wrong, and a few ways to do it
right. GPal looks very, very well done. I hope you're proud of it, you
should be.

Joe

Some of GPaL's "added features" are tied to GPL 1.1 and some are not. Since
only a fraction of GPaL's feature set has been unveiled at this point, you
can't possibly suggest that the programs you mentioned include all of GPaL's
features. Simple. Your statement is entirely inaccurate and misleading to
RAS readers.

By making the details of the GPaL interface available as it's under
development, the GPL community has the opportunity to evaluate the design
themselves and to provide input. I'm disappointed when that process is
short-circuited by unsubstantiated statements.

Jack Rambo

www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Jack

www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

The ammount of work that has been invested into VROC 1.2 and the
newversion of SpyBoy, was perhaps a measure of concern to some people
as well, considering that VROC 1.2 and the new SpyBoy also have all the
added features of your GPal program and are just waiting for the
release of GPL 1.1 to be able to take advantage of all the new
additions.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

No where in that section did i state that new versions of VROC & SpyBoy
had ALL of the features, YET to be added OR revealed in your GPal
program..
I started that they have all the added features of GPal, and they do
have..  How can i know what you are going to add to GPal in the furure
?
What i do know is what you have made available for viewing, apart from
the adjustable Ai strength is also available in the new Versions of
VROC and SpyBoy..
Maybe i should have made myself clearer on that point, rather than let
you drag it all out of proportion.
I know you understood my post Jack, and why you have to try to turn
this post into a public relations promotional feature for Gpal is
anyone's guess.
I wasn't putting down you, or your program, but as i stated, i simply
entered this discussion about the compatability issues with the
programs in question.
I have never made any unsubstantiated statements, as you so  elequently
put it, but simply wanted to know, like a lot of others, what your
ultimate intentions regarding compatability issues were and how GPal
was going to interact with VROC and SpyBoy.
I am not giving you any more publicity on RAS, if you want to take this
further, feel free to email me with your complaints or ***ies.
Cheers,
Ron

 My goal was, and is, to make the GPL

And we thank you for it Jack! Shake it off, and keep up the brilliant
jobbing!
Just wait until after the first release, you'll have tons of thank you's
with even bigger exclamation marks!

All best,

Matt

--

Matthew Knutsen

"The Art of Legends" - GPL add-ons
http://www.cheekracing.electra.no/GPL/

About the chat, I hope that if Jack  will include it, it will be
gamma.net based.

Remco

Why, oh why, does anyone on this newsgroup feel it is somehow necessary to
give him sh*t for it?  I have seen many newsgroups chase helpful people away
(like the developers of the games themselves (can you say c.s.i.p.g.f-s?)
because a vocal minority feels the need to bash instead of offer helpful
advice and comments.  If you don't feel that what Jack has created will be
of use to you, don't download it.  Thoughtless comments serve no purpose.  I
feel grateful that Jack has decided that there was value in the opinions of
this newsgroup that might help in the development of his tool.  He must have
been surprised when, instead of getting helpful comments, he got a raft of
sh*t.  Geez.  Some people...

Jack, if some of the nitwits on this group don't want the fruit of your many
hours of labor, send it to me.  It looks like an immensely helpful utility.
Please don't leave the group and, as someone else said here, "don't let the
bastards get you down".

-Jeff H.

Girl girls girls girls girl...!!! Let's take this outside, handbags at 10 paces maybe??

On a serious note, and I really should not get involved, but as an impartial outsider, there does seem to be some questions that still need addressing.

The question regarding how GPaL interacts with GSB & VROC still seems to remain unanswered. Dose GPal pop up automatically when we select a race from either GSB or VROC? or will we need to click on an Icon? Once we have made our GPaL selections, will GPL be launched automatically?, or will there be another key press involved? Am I even in the right ballpark with these questions?, until Jack give us a little more detail, no one knows.....!

As for what functions are in GSB 1.1/VROC 1.2 verses what will be in GPaL, and what if any "doubling-up" of features will exist, we will all just have to wait and see, (May 31st for GPaL and who-knows-when for GSB/VROC and GPL 1.1).

And Ron, if you are privy to some insider information regarding the content of GSB/VROC, then I respectfully suggest that you honour your non-disclosure agreement, and keep quiet, as your dropping of hints as to what will be included is only confusing things further.

As for the "Public Relations" exercise for GPaL, I'm sure that Jack is only tryin to see what interest exists in what will essentially be "freeware". Where I believe things have gone a little out of control is in the fact that if you ask 100 people what they want, they will always want 100 different things..!! Maybe less hype would equal less unwarranted criticism, (sorry Jack...!!)

I for one cannot wait for GPal, or GPL 1.1 / GSB 1.1, and I am in awe of those people that make these thing possible, especially considering it's all for free...... so I suggest that we all just sit back and wait for the release of these products, before making any judgements or jumping to any wrong conclusions......

PLEASE END THIS THREAD HERE.

SteveG

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Mikey
Team Jesus Racing

    Maybe I wrote that wrong..  I was trying to say... The way he has been wording
the adds for Gpal,  It seems as though he is trying to get a "I'm God" idea across.

    Maybe I've been reading the adds the wrong way. It just seemed to be trying to
get that idea across.  I meant no flame by my post.  I do wish him well with the
add-on.

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