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So that's what Kaemmer is up to...

TDRacin

So that's what Kaemmer is up to...

by TDRacin » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 08:24:54

OOOOH!!!!


> Compete, I think the West Brothers would have to have a product first.



> > > Article is from the latest PC Gamer.

> > Sounds like Kaemmer is trying to compete with the West brothers...

Michael Grand

So that's what Kaemmer is up to...

by Michael Grand » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 08:41:48

You disagree?


> OOOOH!!!!



> > Compete, I think the West Brothers would have to have a product first.



> > > > Article is from the latest PC Gamer.

> > > Sounds like Kaemmer is trying to compete with the West brothers...

Mitch_

So that's what Kaemmer is up to...

by Mitch_ » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:30:53

I just read (BHMS) that SBDT couldnt get decent multi with 16 players so
they are in another re-write.

Have you tried the demo Tim?  IMO the press demo outclasses (by a large
margin) anything Papy has given us to date from a pure driving standpoint.
We'll have to wait and see what the final brings us but if it's half as good
as the demo the new Papy has their work cut out for them.

Mitch


Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:16:30



>> OOOOH!!!!


  I don't think so Mike,,,a disagreement would probably be inferred by:

oooh...the above CLEARLY has one more O and all letters are
capiti...err...all in big letters.

dave henrie

Damien Evan

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by Damien Evan » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:21:05

Yes, but for some reason the engine doesn't seem to lend itself to good
multiplayer or replays.  SBDT have stated that they won't release the game
until they've got 30+ cars running smoothly on a dedicated server.  Hope
that doesn't mean that the game will be horribly delayed.  LFS and Netkar
are the only other sims that I've played that can match Papy in the netcode
department.

Mike Beaucham

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by Mike Beaucham » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:13:04

agreed..
papy, more like crappy.

flame away

mike


> I just read (BHMS) that SBDT couldnt get decent multi with 16 players so
> they are in another re-write.

> Have you tried the demo Tim?  IMO the press demo outclasses (by a large
> margin) anything Papy has given us to date from a pure driving standpoint.
> We'll have to wait and see what the final brings us but if it's half as
good
> as the demo the new Papy has their work cut out for them.

> Mitch



> > May have already re-wrote it, but is it any good?  Papy still sets the
> > standard for that.  Well, that and everything else in a sim.   lol

Jason Moy

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by Jason Moy » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:40:04

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 03:13:04 -0400, "Mike Beauchamp"


>agreed..
>papy, more like crappy.

Besides the shitty multiplayer and  tire/aero modelling that's been
present in everything made using an ISI engine, I agree 100%.

Not that any of those things are important components of a sim.

Damien Evan

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by Damien Evan » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:53:53

I'm a suspension fan....that's where ISI beat the competition into a
bleeding pulp.  Well, except maybe Wartog (who I'd never even heard of
before RBR)

Jo

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by Jo » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:13:37


> At the link read the first post with the main story, and skip the rest.
> Most of them are childish and sound like they are coming from arcade gamer's
> that don't have a clue about the spirit of what Papyrus did, does, and will
> do again.

> I wish them all the luck and I'm looking forward to whatever they come out
> with.

> And as I've stated before, I have ZERO problem paying a fee for online
> racing as long as it's a quality service.

> -Larry



> > http://taurisanofamily.com/racing/index.php?showtopic=339

> > Article is from the latest PC Gamer.

Papys Multiplayer coad is the best there is . as for GTR if they can
get at least 30 cars for multi it will be a blast ..
Eldre

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by Eldre » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:18:00

>You disagree?



>> OOOOH!!!!



>> > Compete, I think the West Brothers would have to have a product first.



>> > > > Article is from the latest PC Gamer.

>> > > Sounds like Kaemmer is trying to compete with the West brothers...

Techically, Kaemmer doesn't have a product yet, either... :-)

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JM

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by JM » Sun, 18 Jul 2004 00:42:27



Nascar Heat has excellent netcode.
cheers
John

Jason Moy

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by Jason Moy » Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:10:56


MGI's switch to console-only a few years ago was a pretty big loss.
Viper Racing and Nascar Heat were both incredible titles when they
came out.

Larr

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by Larr » Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:26:06

SBDT ?

What's that?

I get the Silent But Deadly part, but the T ?  Turd ?

-Larry


> Ill wait till the online code has been tested on that one. Hopefully sbdt
> are allowed to fully re-write isi's awful effort
>  dan


> > > Our boy Kaemmer is catching on... finally.

> > > 18 to 24 months... oh well, back to GPL for the time being. <g>

> > We don't need Kaemmer any more - we've got SBDT.  <g>

Mitch_

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by Mitch_ » Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:35:21

Sim Bin Dev Team.


> SBDT ?

> What's that?

> I get the Silent But Deadly part, but the T ?  Turd ?

> -Larry



> > Ill wait till the online code has been tested on that one. Hopefully
sbdt
> > are allowed to fully re-write isi's awful effort
> >  dan


> > > > Our boy Kaemmer is catching on... finally.

> > > > 18 to 24 months... oh well, back to GPL for the time being. <g>

> > > We don't need Kaemmer any more - we've got SBDT.  <g>

EL

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by EL » Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:38:14

I disagree, there is no tire feel in GTR making the feel for the edge almost
impossible. But in other things they are better, but we are comparing a up
to date sim with a 4-5 years old one.

EL


> I just read (BHMS) that SBDT couldnt get decent multi with 16 players so
> they are in another re-write.

> Have you tried the demo Tim?  IMO the press demo outclasses (by a large
> margin) anything Papy has given us to date from a pure driving standpoint.
> We'll have to wait and see what the final brings us but if it's half as
good
> as the demo the new Papy has their work cut out for them.

> Mitch



> > May have already re-wrote it, but is it any good?  Papy still sets the
> > standard for that.  Well, that and everything else in a sim.   lol


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