rec.autos.simulators

by **Joe Marque** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:11:44

I've been able to do this at will. I've done this 4 times in a row, even
works
with different documents.

Here's how: I go into MS Word XP to print a document. I use document
preview on my Epson 870 settings. I zoom in to see the preview by clicking
on the magnifying glass (I zoom in full). I scroll with my mouse wheel to
view the document. BAM, system re-boots.

Is this a RAM problem or hard drive problem, where accessing this document
in memory causes the crash?

Here's the error message from XP event logs:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Save Dump
Date: 11/25/2001
Time: 12:57:38 AM

Description:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x1000008e
(0xc0000005, 0xbf8670e1, 0xf2398a90, 0x00000000). A dump was saved in:
C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini112501-01.dmp.

What do these numbers above mean?

My System (no o/c, nothing funky):

AMD 1600+
512 MB 2100 Corsair Ram
GF3 Ti 500
IBM 60 GB HD
ECS K7S5A MOBO
Enlight case with 340W PS
Win XP
Office XP

TIA.

--
Joe Marques

by **David Indec** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:57:32

Sounds like a software problem. Download everything from both Office and
Windows Update, see if that helps at all.

David I

by **Will DeRiver** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:56:25

Like David already said, it shound like a software issue. FYI, XP has this
*lovely* feature where it will just reboot when it comes across fatal errors
and such.
--
- Will DeRivera
- http://www.numic.net
- http://www.luxt.com

by **Joe Marque** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:16:55

Thanks for the help. It appears to be my GF3 driver. I rolled back to the
21.83's from the 22.80's and I can no longer create the crash. Looking good
so far.

--
Joe Marques

> Sounds like a software problem. Download everything from both Office and
> Windows Update, see if that helps at all.

> David I

> > I've been able to do this at will. I've done this 4 times in a row,
even
> > works
> > with different documents.

> > Here's how: I go into MS Word XP to print a document. I use document
> > preview on my Epson 870 settings. I zoom in to see the preview by
> clicking
> > on the magnifying glass (I zoom in full). I scroll with my mouse wheel
to
> > view the document. BAM, system re-boots.

> > Is this a RAM problem or hard drive problem, where accessing this
document
> > in memory causes the crash?

> > Here's the error message from XP event logs:

> > Event Type: Information
> > Event Source: Save Dump
> > Date: 11/25/2001
> > Time: 12:57:38 AM

> > Description:
> > The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x1000008e
> > (0xc0000005, 0xbf8670e1, 0xf2398a90, 0x00000000). A dump was saved in:
> > C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini112501-01.dmp.

> > What do these numbers above mean?

> > My System (no o/c, nothing funky):

> > AMD 1600+
> > 512 MB 2100 Corsair Ram
> > GF3 Ti 500
> > IBM 60 GB HD
> > ECS K7S5A MOBO
> > Enlight case with 340W PS
> > Win XP
> > Office XP

> > TIA.

> > --
> > Joe Marques

by **REDLINE42** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:10:12

Typical NVIDIA Windows crap, Oh yea I great frame rates in games, but they
never say anything about the Windows GUI problems.

by **Don Burnett** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:28:33

I don't have XP yet, but I have read in some of the MS newsgroups that "
feature" of the system rebooting when it comes across an error, can be
disabled.

Don Burnette

> Like David already said, it shound like a software issue. FYI, XP has this
> *lovely* feature where it will just reboot when it comes across fatal
errors
> and such.
> --
> - Will DeRivera
> - http://www.numic.net
> - http://www.luxt.com

> > I've been able to do this at will. I've done this 4 times in a row,
even
> > works
> > with different documents.

> > Here's how: I go into MS Word XP to print a document. I use document
> > preview on my Epson 870 settings. I zoom in to see the preview by
> clicking
> > on the magnifying glass (I zoom in full). I scroll with my mouse wheel
to
> > view the document. BAM, system re-boots.

> > Is this a RAM problem or hard drive problem, where accessing this
document
> > in memory causes the crash?

> > Here's the error message from XP event logs:

> > Event Type: Information
> > Event Source: Save Dump
> > Date: 11/25/2001
> > Time: 12:57:38 AM

> > Description:
> > The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x1000008e
> > (0xc0000005, 0xbf8670e1, 0xf2398a90, 0x00000000). A dump was saved in:
> > C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini112501-01.dmp.

> > What do these numbers above mean?

> > My System (no o/c, nothing funky):

> > AMD 1600+
> > 512 MB 2100 Corsair Ram
> > GF3 Ti 500
> > IBM 60 GB HD
> > ECS K7S5A MOBO
> > Enlight case with 340W PS
> > Win XP
> > Office XP

> > TIA.

> > --
> > Joe Marques

by **Ryan** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:52:52

In windows 2000, that feature can be disabled by unchecking "Automatically
reboot" in the startup and recovery section on the advanced tab for the
system properties in control panel. Did that make sense?? It's getting to
be a long day for me....

Ryan

by **Joe Marque** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:04:06

It's in the same place in XP. Thanks for that info. What happens if I
disable this? Error message box? BSOD? System freeze? Varies depending
on the type of error?

TIA,

--
Joe Marques

by **Ryan** » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:32:52

It won't reboot if there's an error, it will just record it in event viewer
and move on [as long as it's not critical] :-) (I'm using win2k, don't
know if that exists in XP as well)

Ryan

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