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by **Cary Martynui** » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00

I just bought the Thrustmaster NASCAR SUPER SPORT steering wheel and I
am having problems with it. I configure it as I am supposed to in WIN 98
and off I go. If I am playing any WINDOWS based games (VIPER Racing,
Colin Mcrae RALLY, etc....) the wheel and pedals work fairly well,
although I noticed sometimes that while in the middle of the game, the
wheel's calibration goes to shit and I am forced to drive the remainder
of the distance with the wheel slightly***ed to one side down
straightaways as the wheel's center somehow gets knocked off. I then
have to exit the game I am playing in order to re-calibrate the wheel.
Basically, when the calibration goes off, I want to be able to pause
the game I'm playing (lets say it is VIPER for example), minimize it,
then go back to the Windows desktop without actually quitting (leaving
the game still running in the background). If I can do this, I can then
re-calibrate the wheel using the Thrustmaster WIN 98 software, then just
click on the minimized game on the control bar to put the game back into
the foreground right where I left off. I can't remember what the
keystroke command that you hit on your keyboard is to bring up the
windows desktop and minimize the current application (or game in my
case) into the background. Can anyone help me out here???

The 2nd problem is the big deal though. I cannot get the BRAKE pedal to
operate in DOS based games at all! This really sucks shit because that
means I can't play GP2 or any other DOS game with it! Prior to acquiring
this TM SUPER SPORT wheel and pedals, my old THRUSTMASTER T2 setup
worked great for these DOS based games.

To play these DOS games, I boot up into WIN98, then either hit the
"START" button, followed by "SHUT DOWN" followed by "RESTART IN DOS
MODE", or I would just hit the MSDOS prompt button in WIN98. Either way
I come up with a DOS prompt from which I can run these DOS based
programs. In order to bypass this, what is the keystroke(s) that I can
use during bootup that prevents WIN98 from loading, and instead coming
up with the DOS prompt??

Anyway, back to the brake problem. If I am playing GP2 or the older
EUROPRESS RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP for example (they both run in DOS mode), I
go through the regular calibration in the game, but I have no brakes at
all! I push the pedal down and there is no reaction from the game
whatsoever. The rest of the controller (gas pedal, steering wheel,
paddles, etc.....) works fine.

While in DOS mode, I loaded TMSCOPE and TMSCOPE doesn't recognize the
brake at all as well! So this shows that it isn't the games that are
screwed, it is the wheel and pedals.

Does anyone else have this problem? How can I setup this thing to
recognize the brakes in DOS mode? Like I said earlier, it works fine in
WINDOWS, but not DOS. I e-mailed ThrustMaster but they haven't replied
yet.

Any help at all that you could give me would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance
Cary Martynuik

by **Mark Gauntlet** » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00

I've just bought a Thrustmaster Formula Sprint and it does EXACTLY the same
as you describe i.e. part way into a game (Colin McRae Rally, TOCA) the
calibration goes off and to drive in a straight line I have to hold the
wheel over about 20 degrees to the right. My old GP1 and a homemade wheel
work fine.

I too have e-mailed TM (in the UK) but have yet to get a reply. This is
driving me mad!!! I'm glad it's not just me and I'd love to find a
solution.

Mark

>I just bought the Thrustmaster NASCAR SUPER SPORT steering wheel and I
>am having problems with it. I configure it as I am supposed to in WIN 98
>and off I go. If I am playing any WINDOWS based games (VIPER Racing,
>Colin Mcrae RALLY, etc....) the wheel and pedals work fairly well,
>although I noticed sometimes that while in the middle of the game, the
>wheel's calibration goes to shit and I am forced to drive the remainder
>of the distance with the wheel slightly***ed to one side down
>straightaways as the wheel's center somehow gets knocked off. I then
>have to exit the game I am playing in order to re-calibrate the wheel.
> Basically, when the calibration goes off, I want to be able to pause
>the game I'm playing (lets say it is VIPER for example), minimize it,
>then go back to the Windows desktop without actually quitting (leaving
>the game still running in the background). If I can do this, I can then
>re-calibrate the wheel using the Thrustmaster WIN 98 software, then just
>click on the minimized game on the control bar to put the game back into
>the foreground right where I left off. I can't remember what the
>keystroke command that you hit on your keyboard is to bring up the
>windows desktop and minimize the current application (or game in my
>case) into the background. Can anyone help me out here???

> The 2nd problem is the big deal though. I cannot get the BRAKE pedal to
>operate in DOS based games at all! This really sucks shit because that
>means I can't play GP2 or any other DOS game with it! Prior to acquiring
>this TM SUPER SPORT wheel and pedals, my old THRUSTMASTER T2 setup
>worked great for these DOS based games.

> To play these DOS games, I boot up into WIN98, then either hit the
>"START" button, followed by "SHUT DOWN" followed by "RESTART IN DOS
>MODE", or I would just hit the MSDOS prompt button in WIN98. Either way
>I come up with a DOS prompt from which I can run these DOS based
>programs. In order to bypass this, what is the keystroke(s) that I can
>use during bootup that prevents WIN98 from loading, and instead coming
>up with the DOS prompt??

> Anyway, back to the brake problem. If I am playing GP2 or the older
>EUROPRESS RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP for example (they both run in DOS mode), I
>go through the regular calibration in the game, but I have no brakes at
>all! I push the pedal down and there is no reaction from the game
>whatsoever. The rest of the controller (gas pedal, steering wheel,
>paddles, etc.....) works fine.

> While in DOS mode, I loaded TMSCOPE and TMSCOPE doesn't recognize the
>brake at all as well! So this shows that it isn't the games that are
>screwed, it is the wheel and pedals.

> Does anyone else have this problem? How can I setup this thing to
>recognize the brakes in DOS mode? Like I said earlier, it works fine in
>WINDOWS, but not DOS. I e-mailed ThrustMaster but they haven't replied
>yet.

> Any help at all that you could give me would be greatly appreciated!!

> Thanks in advance
> Cary Martynuik

by **Cary Martynui** » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00

> I've just bought a Thrustmaster Formula Sprint and it does EXACTLY the same
> as you describe i.e. part way into a game (Colin McRae Rally, TOCA) the
> calibration goes off and to drive in a straight line I have to hold the
> wheel over about 20 degrees to the right. My old GP1 and a homemade wheel
> work fine.

> I too have e-mailed TM (in the UK) but have yet to get a reply. This is
> driving me mad!!! I'm glad it's not just me and I'd love to find a
> solution.

> Mark

> >I just bought the Thrustmaster NASCAR SUPER SPORT steering wheel and I
> >am having problems with it. I configure it as I am supposed to in WIN 98
> >and off I go. If I am playing any WINDOWS based games (VIPER Racing,
> >Colin Mcrae RALLY, etc....) the wheel and pedals work fairly well,
> >although I noticed sometimes that while in the middle of the game, the
> >wheel's calibration goes to shit and I am forced to drive the remainder
> >of the distance with the wheel slightly***ed to one side down
> >straightaways as the wheel's center somehow gets knocked off. I then
> >have to exit the game I am playing in order to re-calibrate the wheel.
> > Basically, when the calibration goes off, I want to be able to pause
> >the game I'm playing (lets say it is VIPER for example), minimize it,
> >then go back to the Windows desktop without actually quitting (leaving
> >the game still running in the background). If I can do this, I can then
> >re-calibrate the wheel using the Thrustmaster WIN 98 software, then just
> >click on the minimized game on the control bar to put the game back into
> >the foreground right where I left off. I can't remember what the
> >keystroke command that you hit on your keyboard is to bring up the
> >windows desktop and minimize the current application (or game in my
> >case) into the background. Can anyone help me out here???

> > The 2nd problem is the big deal though. I cannot get the BRAKE pedal to
> >operate in DOS based games at all! This really sucks shit because that
> >means I can't play GP2 or any other DOS game with it! Prior to acquiring
> >this TM SUPER SPORT wheel and pedals, my old THRUSTMASTER T2 setup
> >worked great for these DOS based games.

> > To play these DOS games, I boot up into WIN98, then either hit the
> >"START" button, followed by "SHUT DOWN" followed by "RESTART IN DOS
> >MODE", or I would just hit the MSDOS prompt button in WIN98. Either way
> >I come up with a DOS prompt from which I can run these DOS based
> >programs. In order to bypass this, what is the keystroke(s) that I can
> >use during bootup that prevents WIN98 from loading, and instead coming
> >up with the DOS prompt??

> > Anyway, back to the brake problem. If I am playing GP2 or the older
> >EUROPRESS RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP for example (they both run in DOS mode), I
> >go through the regular calibration in the game, but I have no brakes at
> >all! I push the pedal down and there is no reaction from the game
> >whatsoever. The rest of the controller (gas pedal, steering wheel,
> >paddles, etc.....) works fine.

> > While in DOS mode, I loaded TMSCOPE and TMSCOPE doesn't recognize the
> >brake at all as well! So this shows that it isn't the games that are
> >screwed, it is the wheel and pedals.

> > Does anyone else have this problem? How can I setup this thing to
> >recognize the brakes in DOS mode? Like I said earlier, it works fine in
> >WINDOWS, but not DOS. I e-mailed ThrustMaster but they haven't replied
> >yet.

> > Any help at all that you could give me would be greatly appreciated!!

> > Thanks in advance
> > Cary Martynuik

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one dealing with this shit as
well. If you hear anything regarding possible fixes/patches, e-mail me
and I will do the same if I come across any as well.

by **Daxe Rexfor** » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Alt-Tab will switch between running applications. If you can;t get there
using that, leave something small like calc.exe running while the game is
going and you can switch to that, which will have the same effect.

daxe

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by **Jeff Vince** » Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:00:00

On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:54:13 -0500, Cary Martynuik

> To play these DOS games, I boot up into WIN98, then either hit the
>"START" button, followed by "SHUT DOWN" followed by "RESTART IN DOS
>MODE", or I would just hit the MSDOS prompt button in WIN98. Either way
>I come up with a DOS prompt from which I can run these DOS based
>programs. In order to bypass this, what is the keystroke(s) that I can
>use during bootup that prevents WIN98 from loading, and instead coming
>up with the DOS prompt??

When you see "Starting Windows 98...", hit the F8 key and choose
the "command line only" option. (That's for Win95, but Win98 is most
likely very similar.) This is pure DOS, different from the methods
you mentioned above, so it may help your problem. Also, you may have
to configure DOS to load CD-ROM or sound card drivers (another topic
for another post, but that should get you started).

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

by **SteveBla** » Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:00:00

My SuperSport wouldn't stay centered either, and a friend's does it too. Best
solution for the SuperSport is to return it (as I did) and get a Logitech
Wingman Formula. I've only had it a couple of days, but it blows everything
else at the price point into the weeds-not even close . The pedals do need
stiffer springs, but otherwise, it kills. I've made some mods to mine to make
it even better, as well. I'll post them with a review ASAP. If you're looing
for a great sub-$100 non-FF wheel, look no further.

Steve B.

Steve Blankenship

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by **Michael E. Carve** » Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:00:00

% I've just bought a Thrustmaster Formula Sprint and it does EXACTLY the same
% as you describe i.e. part way into a game (Colin McRae Rally, TOCA) the
% calibration goes off and to drive in a straight line I have to hold the
% wheel over about 20 degrees to the right. My old GP1 and a homemade wheel
% work fine.

% I too have e-mailed TM (in the UK) but have yet to get a reply. This is
% driving me mad!!! I'm glad it's not just me and I'd love to find a
% solution.

I think there is an updated driver package for the Sprint and the Super
Sport at: ftp://208.129.210.79/pub/library/installs/motorsports_12.exe

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by **Michael E. Carve** » Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:00:00

% The 2nd problem is the big deal though. I cannot get the BRAKE pedal to
% operate in DOS based games at all! This really sucks shit because that
% means I can't play GP2 or any other DOS game with it! Prior to acquiring
% this TM SUPER SPORT wheel and pedals, my old THRUSTMASTER T2 setup
% worked great for these DOS based games.

% To play these DOS games, I boot up into WIN98, then either hit the
% "START" button, followed by "SHUT DOWN" followed by "RESTART IN DOS
% MODE", or I would just hit the MSDOS prompt button in WIN98. Either way
% I come up with a DOS prompt from which I can run these DOS based
% programs. In order to bypass this, what is the keystroke(s) that I can
% use during bootup that prevents WIN98 from loading, and instead coming
% up with the DOS prompt??

% Anyway, back to the brake problem. If I am playing GP2 or the older
% EUROPRESS RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP for example (they both run in DOS mode), I
% go through the regular calibration in the game, but I have no brakes at
% all! I push the pedal down and there is no reaction from the game
% whatsoever. The rest of the controller (gas pedal, steering wheel,
% paddles, etc.....) works fine.

% While in DOS mode, I loaded TMSCOPE and TMSCOPE doesn't recognize the
% brake at all as well! So this shows that it isn't the games that are
% screwed, it is the wheel and pedals.

Since GP2 is a pure DOS program, setup via Windows control panel (or
TM's ProPanel will have no affect in GP2).

In the a pure DOS environment the following axes apply to the Super
Sport:

Gas = Y1 or Joystick A Vertical
Brake = X2 or Joystick B Horizontal
Steering = X1 or Joystick A Horizontal
Top row buttons = Joystick A
Paddles = Joystick B

Select an unused controller setup in GP2 and assign the various options
(steering, brake, gas, etc.) to the above. Make sure you have "Control
Driven Calibration" checked. Calibrate the wheel according to the on
screen instructions and things should work fine.

The following is the *.con file for the Super Sport using paddles for
shifting. Place the following file in your GPSAVES folder.

begin 644 ssport.con
MOJ$]A0( & 3+_#$$,!P$R" $R
:_Q R#PX 4W5P97)3<&]R= T .()!40

end

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