Great. Start on Valentine's day. Thanks a lot for that.
> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix it. So
> what is the big issue so far?
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>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For season 2,
>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to switch
>> at that time."
>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix it. So
>> what is the big issue so far?
> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
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NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
Bill Bollinger
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>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For season 2,
>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to switch
>>> at that time."
>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix it. So
>>> what is the big issue so far?
>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
>> Mitch
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> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
> Bill Bollinger
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>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to be too
>> buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch. May as well
>> say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For season
>>>> 2,
>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to switch
>>>> at that time."
>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix it. So
>>>> what is the big issue so far?
>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
>>> Mitch
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> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
> Bill Bollinger
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>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to be too
>> buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch. May as well
>> say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For season
>>>> 2,
>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to switch
>>>> at that time."
>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix it. So
>>>> what is the big issue so far?
>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
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Joe's website forums (www.ollineracin.com/forums) might shed some light onto
what your asking. TO ME, In a nutshell EA decided to go gold with a lot of
missing parts for "online" usability, for one example, the f2-space (that is
in NRxx) to see intervals between your car and others. plus ways to control
dedicated servers remotely (no dedicated commands to used by admins like we
can papy dedicated servers as last I read) only a voting system I guess?
plus other things like outputing/exporting of resuslts files, you know so
post editing can detected I think, and some other things...
Sorry I can't recall all the specific ones, there was seemingly quite a
"list" from several different discussions... But EA has seemed to convince
many that they will get this stuff fixed in promised a patch.
Me? Well I dont know, it is kinda like selling anything... once it is
money in your pocket, would you care? I can only hope in this case that EA
will, I mean they are going to want to sell me games stuff eventually right?
BUT if things keep going, & they end up being the only game
publisher/developer in town anymore, which some reports they are be very
'Borg' like at EA.
Schooner enlightened us with:
>> I wouldn't be saying that. Mr. Hawkins just had a FANTASTIC Q&A
>> session on www.crazygameworld.com (Teamspeak)
>> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
>> Bill Bollinger
>> www.gsxn.com
>>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to
>>> be too buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch. May
>>> as well say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For
>>>>> season 2,
>>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to
>>>>> switch at that time."
>>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix
>>>>> it. So what is the big issue so far?
>>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
>>>> Mitch
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> Joe's website forums (www.ollineracin.com/forums) might shed some light
> onto what your asking. TO ME, In a nutshell EA decided to go gold with a
> lot of missing parts for "online" usability, for one example, the f2-space
> (that is in NRxx) to see intervals between your car and others. plus ways
> to control dedicated servers remotely (no dedicated commands to used by
> admins like we can papy dedicated servers as last I read) only a voting
> system I guess? plus other things like outputing/exporting of resuslts
> files, you know so post editing can detected I think, and some other
> things...
> Sorry I can't recall all the specific ones, there was seemingly quite a
> "list" from several different discussions... But EA has seemed to
> convince many that they will get this stuff fixed in promised a patch.
> Me? Well I dont know, it is kinda like selling anything... once it is
> money in your pocket, would you care? I can only hope in this case that
> EA will, I mean they are going to want to sell me games stuff eventually
> right?
> BUT if things keep going, & they end up being the only game
> publisher/developer in town anymore, which some reports they are be very
> 'Borg' like at EA.
> Schooner enlightened us with:
>> I hope it is, we need something to revive NASCAR sim racing. Leagues
>> are slowly drying up as is.
>> I'm just curious about hat the OP said.
>>> I wouldn't be saying that. Mr. Hawkins just had a FANTASTIC Q&A
>>> session on www.crazygameworld.com (Teamspeak)
>>> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
>>> Bill Bollinger
>>> www.gsxn.com
>>>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to
>>>> be too buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch. May
>>>> as well say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>>>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For
>>>>>> season 2,
>>>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to
>>>>>> switch at that time."
>>>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix
>>>>>> it. So what is the big issue so far?
>>>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
>>>>> Mitch
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>> Schooner,
>> Joe's website forums (www.ollineracin.com/forums) might shed some light
>> onto what your asking. TO ME, In a nutshell EA decided to go gold with a
>> lot of missing parts for "online" usability, for one example, the
>> f2-space (that is in NRxx) to see intervals between your car and others.
>> plus ways to control dedicated servers remotely (no dedicated commands to
>> used by admins like we can papy dedicated servers as last I read) only a
>> voting system I guess? plus other things like outputing/exporting of
>> resuslts files, you know so post editing can detected I think, and some
>> other things...
>> Sorry I can't recall all the specific ones, there was seemingly quite a
>> "list" from several different discussions... But EA has seemed to
>> convince many that they will get this stuff fixed in promised a patch.
>> Me? Well I dont know, it is kinda like selling anything... once it is
>> money in your pocket, would you care? I can only hope in this case that
>> EA will, I mean they are going to want to sell me games stuff eventually
>> right?
>> BUT if things keep going, & they end up being the only game
>> publisher/developer in town anymore, which some reports they are be very
>> 'Borg' like at EA.
>> Schooner enlightened us with:
>>> I hope it is, we need something to revive NASCAR sim racing. Leagues
>>> are slowly drying up as is.
>>> I'm just curious about hat the OP said.
>>>> I wouldn't be saying that. Mr. Hawkins just had a FANTASTIC Q&A
>>>> session on www.crazygameworld.com (Teamspeak)
>>>> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
>>>> Bill Bollinger
>>>> www.gsxn.com
>>>>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to
>>>>> be too buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch. May
>>>>> as well say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>>>>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For
>>>>>>> season 2,
>>>>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to
>>>>>>> switch at that time."
>>>>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix
>>>>>>> it. So what is the big issue so far?
>>>>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
>>>>>> Mitch
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Or how about the kudos that went to Papy for releasing a patch for 03, to
fix the flaw that allowed unrealistic setups ? A basic flaw that you'd
think after the umptienth Nx release wouldn't be in the game anyway.
Or remember when ICR2 was released in such a mess, and the clamor about a
patch for that ?
Hehe, same old story; someone else does situation x, oh, the horror. Papy
does the exact same thing.......cool, man, what great guys.
LOL
> Bill Bollinger
> www.gsxn.com
> > Thanks. Well if it is missing that much out of the box I'd wager that
it
> > is dead already to most of the sim world. Waiting on a patch to a buggy
> > game that isn't even on the shelf isn't going to impress anyone. For a
> > title they focused at a simmers they are missing a lot of simmer
features
> > IMHO.
> >> Schooner,
> >> Joe's website forums (www.ollineracin.com/forums) might shed some light
> >> onto what your asking. TO ME, In a nutshell EA decided to go gold with
a
> >> lot of missing parts for "online" usability, for one example, the
> >> f2-space (that is in NRxx) to see intervals between your car and
others.
> >> plus ways to control dedicated servers remotely (no dedicated commands
to
> >> used by admins like we can papy dedicated servers as last I read) only
a
> >> voting system I guess? plus other things like outputing/exporting of
> >> resuslts files, you know so post editing can detected I think, and some
> >> other things...
> >> Sorry I can't recall all the specific ones, there was seemingly quite a
> >> "list" from several different discussions... But EA has seemed to
> >> convince many that they will get this stuff fixed in promised a patch.
> >> Me? Well I dont know, it is kinda like selling anything... once it is
> >> money in your pocket, would you care? I can only hope in this case
that
> >> EA will, I mean they are going to want to sell me games stuff
eventually
> >> right?
> >> BUT if things keep going, & they end up being the only game
> >> publisher/developer in town anymore, which some reports they are be
very
> >> 'Borg' like at EA.
> >> Schooner enlightened us with:
> >>> I hope it is, we need something to revive NASCAR sim racing. Leagues
> >>> are slowly drying up as is.
> >>> I'm just curious about hat the OP said.
> >>>> I wouldn't be saying that. Mr. Hawkins just had a FANTASTIC Q&A
> >>>> session on www.crazygameworld.com (Teamspeak)
> >>>> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
> >>>> Bill Bollinger
> >>>> www.gsxn.com
> >>>>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to
> >>>>> be too buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch.
May
> >>>>> as well say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
> >>>>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For
> >>>>>>> season 2,
> >>>>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to
> >>>>>>> switch at that time."
> >>>>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix
> >>>>>>> it. So what is the big issue so far?
> >>>>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
> >>>>>> Mitch
> >>>>>> --
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Comparing this to N3 means little, people are looking for and expecting
something better than the current NR2003. EA has the money and resources to
do it right, this should not be a half assed "first try".
I hope it works out and it brings the life back to sim racing but the few
words on it so far make it seem ok but nothing special. I guess only time
and hands on testing will tell the true tale.
> Bill Bollinger
> www.gsxn.com
>> Thanks. Well if it is missing that much out of the box I'd wager that it
>> is dead already to most of the sim world. Waiting on a patch to a buggy
>> game that isn't even on the shelf isn't going to impress anyone. For a
>> title they focused at a simmers they are missing a lot of simmer features
>> IMHO.
>>> Schooner,
>>> Joe's website forums (www.ollineracin.com/forums) might shed some light
>>> onto what your asking. TO ME, In a nutshell EA decided to go gold with
>>> a lot of missing parts for "online" usability, for one example, the
>>> f2-space (that is in NRxx) to see intervals between your car and others.
>>> plus ways to control dedicated servers remotely (no dedicated commands
>>> to used by admins like we can papy dedicated servers as last I read)
>>> only a voting system I guess? plus other things like outputing/exporting
>>> of resuslts files, you know so post editing can detected I think, and
>>> some other things...
>>> Sorry I can't recall all the specific ones, there was seemingly quite a
>>> "list" from several different discussions... But EA has seemed to
>>> convince many that they will get this stuff fixed in promised a patch.
>>> Me? Well I dont know, it is kinda like selling anything... once it is
>>> money in your pocket, would you care? I can only hope in this case that
>>> EA will, I mean they are going to want to sell me games stuff eventually
>>> right?
>>> BUT if things keep going, & they end up being the only game
>>> publisher/developer in town anymore, which some reports they are be very
>>> 'Borg' like at EA.
>>> Schooner enlightened us with:
>>>> I hope it is, we need something to revive NASCAR sim racing. Leagues
>>>> are slowly drying up as is.
>>>> I'm just curious about hat the OP said.
>>>>> I wouldn't be saying that. Mr. Hawkins just had a FANTASTIC Q&A
>>>>> session on www.crazygameworld.com (Teamspeak)
>>>>> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
>>>>> Bill Bollinger
>>>>> www.gsxn.com
>>>>>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to
>>>>>> be too buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch.
>>>>>> May as well say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>>>>>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For
>>>>>>>> season 2,
>>>>>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to
>>>>>>>> switch at that time."
>>>>>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix
>>>>>>>> it. So what is the big issue so far?
>>>>>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading ;)
>>>>>>> Mitch
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Remove "nospam." to reply.
>>>>>>> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a
> Or how about the kudos that went to Papy for releasing a patch for 03,
> to
> fix the flaw that allowed unrealistic setups ? A basic flaw that you'd
> think after the umptienth Nx release wouldn't be in the game anyway.
> Or remember when ICR2 was released in such a mess, and the clamor about a
> patch for that ?
> Hehe, same old story; someone else does situation x, oh, the horror.
> Papy
> does the exact same thing.......cool, man, what great guys.
> LOL
>> Remember that N3 didn't even have a dedicated server package when it was
>> released. I believe this release will be very good and shot a LOT of
>> potential. If they get the dedicated server package fixed (Admin
>> commands
>> installed), everyone will move to NSR online. They have fixed the online
>> problems N2003 have suffered from since N4.
>> Bill Bollinger
>> www.gsxn.com
>> > Thanks. Well if it is missing that much out of the box I'd wager that
> it
>> > is dead already to most of the sim world. Waiting on a patch to a
>> > buggy
>> > game that isn't even on the shelf isn't going to impress anyone. For a
>> > title they focused at a simmers they are missing a lot of simmer
> features
>> > IMHO.
>> >> Schooner,
>> >> Joe's website forums (www.ollineracin.com/forums) might shed some
>> >> light
>> >> onto what your asking. TO ME, In a nutshell EA decided to go gold
>> >> with
> a
>> >> lot of missing parts for "online" usability, for one example, the
>> >> f2-space (that is in NRxx) to see intervals between your car and
> others.
>> >> plus ways to control dedicated servers remotely (no dedicated commands
> to
>> >> used by admins like we can papy dedicated servers as last I read) only
> a
>> >> voting system I guess? plus other things like outputing/exporting of
>> >> resuslts files, you know so post editing can detected I think, and
>> >> some
>> >> other things...
>> >> Sorry I can't recall all the specific ones, there was seemingly quite
>> >> a
>> >> "list" from several different discussions... But EA has seemed to
>> >> convince many that they will get this stuff fixed in promised a patch.
>> >> Me? Well I dont know, it is kinda like selling anything... once it
>> >> is
>> >> money in your pocket, would you care? I can only hope in this case
> that
>> >> EA will, I mean they are going to want to sell me games stuff
> eventually
>> >> right?
>> >> BUT if things keep going, & they end up being the only game
>> >> publisher/developer in town anymore, which some reports they are be
> very
>> >> 'Borg' like at EA.
>> >> Schooner enlightened us with:
>> >>> I hope it is, we need something to revive NASCAR sim racing. Leagues
>> >>> are slowly drying up as is.
>> >>> I'm just curious about hat the OP said.
>> >>>> I wouldn't be saying that. Mr. Hawkins just had a FANTASTIC Q&A
>> >>>> session on www.crazygameworld.com (Teamspeak)
>> >>>> NSR looks to be a kick ass release :)
>> >>>> Bill Bollinger
>> >>>> www.gsxn.com
>> >>>>> Yes I agree. First stating that you expect the initial release to
>> >>>>> be too buggy to use and they stating you are waiting on the patch.
> May
>> >>>>> as well say you have no plans to buy or use it ever ;-)
>> >>>>>>> "For season 1, we plan to run NASCAR Racing 2003 Season. For
>> >>>>>>> season 2,
>> >>>>>>> if EA comes out with the patch for NASCAR Sim Racing, we plan to
>> >>>>>>> switch at that time."
>> >>>>>>> It hasn't been released yet and your waiting on a patch to fix
>> >>>>>>> it. So what is the big issue so far?
>> >>>>>> "Planning" on a patch from EA is a slippery slope to be treading
>> >>>>>> ;)
>> >>>>>> Mitch
>> >>>>>> --
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>> >>>>>> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a
On NSR. I don't see many leagues jumping right over to the new game.
Especially the fixed setup leagues, or leagues that need to have
admins with the ability to boot drivers or issue black flags. I think
it will be great for pickup racing, but not sure if it's ready for
switch. I can assure you from my conversations with EA, they are
working with us very hard to get as much accomplished as possible to
resolve those issues for the patch.
For Flashpoint, there is no way we can do this; because more than 50%
of our leagues run fast-fixed setups. Also, the screen names for NSR
requires you register with EA; which means many drivers will most
likely be unable to use the same screen name they have used in their
league. With any league, this will require those admins to get their
rosters updated.
Overall, I think EA is heading in the right direction and with our
input, it can only get better.