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This will sort out the men from the boys, If you know what I mean.

:-)

Scott Cummings

It's really difficult to put into words, but GPL is so much different
than anything I've ever raced.  Unfortunately I didn't get to spend much
time racing it, and as a result my performance was far from stellar (I'm
sure Mike L. would have a less flattering description of my driving).
Like SODA, it's not the kind of thing you can just jump right into and
expect to do well.  It will take a lot of time, patience, and (for some)
a completely new approach to driving.  That may turn some people off,
but for those who are serious about it, the payoff is well worth the
effort.  I thoroughly enjoyed my short time with GPL, but I've never had
as much fun as I did watching the Papy guys take the car to (and
sometimes beyond) its limits of control.

--
Eric T. Busch

http://ebusch.akorn.net

   So if you think SODA is hard to drive now, wait until GPL!

John

(snip)
It will take a lot of time, patience, and (for some)
a completely new approach to driving.
(unsnip)

Precisely one of the reasons that I look forward to this racing
simulation more than any other during my time on computers.
That, and the fact that, as an "oldie", I relate to this era like no
other! :-)

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Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)

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The Curva Sud Alta Velocita (the banked turn) was used in GP races from
1955-56 and again in 1960 and '61 -- and also, anachronistically, in the
filming of the movie "Grand Prix".

Will the high banked version of Monza be included as well?

Brandon

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I hope not because the high banking was certainly not used for some
years prior to the period being modelled by Papyrus.  The last F1 cars
to run on that banking were the 1.5 litre machines.

--
Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)

Thanks, I didn't know this.  I'm only now learning the history of F1,
and my only impression of Monza from that era had been from "Grand
Prix".  Thanks again.

Brandon

On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:04:15 +1100, Bruce Kennewell

  The 10km combination of road and banked circuit WAS certainly used
in F1. If I remember correctly they raced on this combination in 1955
& 56, and also 1960 & 61. In the last race ('61) Wolfgang von Trips
was killed in his Ferrari, along with four*** spectators.
  Please correct me if I am wrong... :)

        Rob.

I'm hip. If they'd taken all that romance and "*** sport" nonsense
out, it would have been nearly as good as "LeMans" -- in fact, that's
what *I* do whenever I watch the tape; just fast-forward through the
horse manure...

Graham Hill as "Bob Turner" is the best tongue-in-cheek performance by a
racing driver ever, and Phil Hill's histrionics are worth the price of
admission alone. If you've never read Graham Hill's autobio "Life At the
Limit", it's a must. Beneath that deadpan expression we always see in
old race photos was one of the wildest party-animals of his generation.

Bart Brown

You referring to the Monza track, Rob?
If so, you are correct....the last F1 cars to race there (as part of a
GP Championship) were the 1.5 litre Formula machines.

The banking was never used for a Championship race after that.

--
Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)

Bart...
It *had* to be used in "Grand Prix", even though the cars depicted were
3 litre vehicles.
The script called for a car to soar off a banking and onto another part
of the track below.
Monza, with the banked section, was the only one available at the time.

--
Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)