rec.autos.simulators

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Joe M.

I think you're wrong about the reason why the online shop exists.
People saw the West Bro's at Goodwood in nice shirts, and asked
if they were for sale. So the demand created the shop, not the need
for money.

About the faith in RL, as with all software, it will be there when
it's there.

Remco

  One of the producers spoke about it during an interview a couple of months
ago...<paraphrasing>  "...the programmers are actively working with the mod
community and expect to have several mods available almost immeadiately
after Thunder is released....."

 http://www.hcmotorsports.com/
        Go here to see at least 3 different mods already near
completion.(Craftsmen Trucks, Cart, ASA)

dave henrie

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Joe M.

People *might* have been clamoring by the thousands for an online shop. I do
not know. What I do know is that when the Great Teddy Bear Debacle began,
the West's posted an update entitled "Online Shop Coming Soon" saying that
they needed to raise some money to continue the development of Racing
Legends. They said the project could not continue being funded entirely by
themselves.

The reason you give for the online shop is taken directly from the "Online
Shop Coming Soon 2" update on their website, which was IMHO, some of the
most vigorous backpedaling in recorded history.
     "We only put up a shop cause people wanted it so bad!! Never mind about
all that money nonsense! We don't really *need* it! Just thought it would be
nice, that's all.. new computers... and maybe a person or two to help out...
but we don't *need* it to continue, Honest!!"  (I'm paraphrasing here)

I believe they want to make a racing sim.  They have some really cool
looking renders up on their website. It's easy to let one's self fantasize
about zooming around RL's stunningly realistic tracks in racing machine
modeled right down to the completely functional tire valve stem. That is the
allure of RL that turns so many hobbyists into foaming at the mouth
lunatics.

Whether they have the technical skills to build RL I do not know, but I know
it won't -- make that CAN'T -- be the racing nirvana it has been painted to
be. It will be, if anything at all, a game when all is said and done. It may
absolutely suck. It may lock up on your computer. You may be sitting there
for months with an unplayable game waiting on a patch. On the other hand it
may not. Who knows?

One brother may be an excellent computer artist, the other may be a
whiz-bang programmer, but I believe they know about as much about running a
software development company as I know about building a pyramid.

What amuses me about this whole thing is the people who read what the West's
write, whether it be in a forum, website update, or FAQ, and blindly accept
every word as if it were brought down from the mountain by Moses himself.

To say that the demand for a shop rather than a need for funds led to that
idiotic teddy bear staring at me from the RL web page is much more than
naive. It's just plain damned silly.

Mikkel

whiz-bang programmer, but I believe they know about as much about running a
software development company as I know about building a pyramid.
[SNIP]

Heresy! ;-P   Having quality superior track modeling is as important as the
physics itself.  Without one or the other, it's impossible to have a serious
and realistic simulation.  One depends on the other to recreate whatever
motorsport the sim models.  It's more then just about immersion.

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Yup. Cool, eh?

Nobody knows. But it's like X-mass. The time waiting for the present
is always more exciting as the present itself.

Agreed. Isn't the West's fault, though.

Uhm, yes. On the other hand, for this conclusion, you use some other
words written by the Wests..... <g>

Remco

        I found Flobo's 2001 texture update, but still haven't seen anything
for F1 2002.  What I really would like, would be an update to the Le Mans
track that includes the new turns near the Dunlop Bridge.  Time to fire up
the Taser and 'convince' somebody to give up their life for a few months to
rectify that situation.
dave :) henrie

The graphics look like shiz in the latest screenshots on gamespot.com, but
check it:

full deformation engine
analogue gauges
the same MAS format for drop it in and play modding. (meaning drop in your
existing tracks - no edit required!)

You bet your britches that we're going to port GTR2002 to the NT2003 engine,
and it's only going to get better.  Doug has been working with ISI, and says
the physics will be quick minor tweaks, so GTR2002 should be ready for it
even before it goes gold.

Cheers,

Eric

PS there is no NR2003

:'(