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by **andre** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 07:57:27

Jesse, who cares?

Lighten the hell up. Don't like it? Don't read it.

Wanna become an off-topic policeman? Fine. Why not just scroll down the posts
and see what you find? I sure seem to see a lot. What's stopping you? I sure
don't see you responding to them.

> Andrew, when were your posts on topic? Is a post mocking the sim community
> by implying we want a simulator based on scooters on topic? Or maybe your
> single word post we will title "troll" was a positive contribution to the
> discussion. And then you have your "ripping a new a-hole in your logic"
> post. That one added a lot to the discussion. And then this post yelling
> at David because his post is off topic...It seems every post you make is
> telling someone else they are totally wrong. How about you say something
> new to add to the discussion instead of just telling everyone else that they
> are wrong.

> But like Charlie said, this discussion doesn't even belong in this
> newsgroup, so maybe we should stop the discussion now...Unless you were
> serious about making a sim for this game...And if you were, then disregard
> everything I said before and read what I say now...Segway legends doesn't
> seem like an appropriate name, since these scooters weren't made 30 years
> ago. Maybe they could call it Segway Heat and then they could have little
> tests where you have to start in last place on the last lap of "Central Park
> Jogging Path" and everyone ahead of you falls down (Gyroscope failure?) and
> you have to dodge the falling scooters.

> Would anyone like to continue with some funny things that could be in this
> game and maybe we can try to ignore the posts after "troll".

> Jesse

by **andre** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:11:58

Oh, by the way, if you think I'm "mocking the sim community", or simply
implying it, you're wrong. You can try to rally people to believe what you'd
like them to. People aren't as dumb as you think.

I've probably owned more simulations, racing, flying, and otherwise, than many
people, yourself included.

If not, well, my mistake.

> Andrew, when were your posts on topic? Is a post mocking the sim community
> by implying we want a simulator based on scooters on topic? Or maybe your
> single word post we will title "troll" was a positive contribution to the
> discussion. And then you have your "ripping a new a-hole in your logic"
> post. That one added a lot to the discussion. And then this post yelling
> at David because his post is off topic...It seems every post you make is
> telling someone else they are totally wrong. How about you say something
> new to add to the discussion instead of just telling everyone else that they
> are wrong.

> But like Charlie said, this discussion doesn't even belong in this
> newsgroup, so maybe we should stop the discussion now...Unless you were
> serious about making a sim for this game...And if you were, then disregard
> everything I said before and read what I say now...Segway legends doesn't
> seem like an appropriate name, since these scooters weren't made 30 years
> ago. Maybe they could call it Segway Heat and then they could have little
> tests where you have to start in last place on the last lap of "Central Park
> Jogging Path" and everyone ahead of you falls down (Gyroscope failure?) and
> you have to dodge the falling scooters.

> Would anyone like to continue with some funny things that could be in this
> game and maybe we can try to ignore the posts after "troll".

> Jesse

by **STP** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:08:12

No, it will be banned from the sidewalks from any city that is run by anyone
with any common sense.

by **STP** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:11:27

> Ok, fair enough - since it seems to be beyond the realm of your
understanding,
> here, I'll hold your hand:

Geez, you talk like someone with major stocks in the company behind this new
contraption. It will be unsafe on sidewalks and the street is no place to be
using one, GoPeds are banned here and I expect the same will happen to these
things also.

by **Schoone** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:03:57

I agree, such devices are already banned in many cities. Maybe they will be
legal in the new cities that Steve Jobs is planning to build on Mars ;)

> > They made this thing out to be the savior of the free world and it's
> nothing
> > but a powered skateboard, granted it has some neat features but does
> anyone
> > actually see these being used by the public at large?

> No, it will be banned from the sidewalks from any city that is run by
anyone
> with any common sense.

by **andre** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:08:04

I *wish* I was a stockholder.

Anyway, yes, it seems as thought it would be unsafe for pedestrians on the
sidewalk and for the rider on streets.

A bike lane, or walking path seems ideal.

> > Ok, fair enough - since it seems to be beyond the realm of your
> understanding,
> > here, I'll hold your hand:

> Geez, you talk like someone with major stocks in the company behind this new
> contraption. It will be unsafe on sidewalks and the street is no place to be
> using one, GoPeds are banned here and I expect the same will happen to these
> things also.

by **Rafe McAulif** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 12:22:18

I can see it now. Lots of 40 somethings who spend several thousand to
avoid walking, then spend several thousand at a gym to do artificial
walking. Brilliant.

Rafe Mc

>I actually think I know the target market of this thing and this is not a
>joke or a troll, it's aimed at aging baby boomers. It's the "walker" for
>the 2000s.

>> Good, more ideas. I thought of handicap issues after I posted and it is a
>> very good idea. I did not plan to make a complete list of uses for this
>> scooter in my post, but I think my post had a lot more content then just
>> "troll".

>> JB

by **Pierre Robitaill** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 12:52:03

> I can see it now. Lots of 40 somethings who spend several thousand to
> avoid walking, then spend several thousand at a gym to do artificial
> walking. Brilliant.

> Rafe Mc

Or combining the two, buying a Ginger with a built-in treadmill.

by **Eldre** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:59:11

>> but does anyone
>> actually see these being used by the public at large?

>Apparently a lot of people do.

A lot of people bought Pet Rocks, too...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:59:11

>troll

>> Overall it's pretty stupid, can you picture these all over the sidewalks
>> with mini traffic jams?
>> And when you get to your location what do you do with it? Carry it around?
>> Bet it's great on stairs.

Troll? Because he thinks it's stupid? Well, add another one to that list - I
think it's stupid, over-priced, a waste of money, time, and space. Of course,
the guy will sell a lot to people who have more money than sense who just
*have* to have the latest fad no matter how useful it eventually is....
So answer this - WTF *do* you do with it when you get to your destination?
It's a valid question... Forget carrying capacity, too. At least normal
scooters have saddlebags.

Eldred
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by **Kirk Hous** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:40:11

hehehehe, classic post

> I can see it now. Lots of 40 somethings who spend several thousand to
> avoid walking, then spend several thousand at a gym to do artificial
> walking. Brilliant.

> Rafe Mc

> >I actually think I know the target market of this thing and this is not a
> >joke or a troll, it's aimed at aging baby boomers. It's the "walker" for
> >the 2000s.

> >> Good, more ideas. I thought of handicap issues after I posted and it
is a
> >> very good idea. I did not plan to make a complete list of uses for
this
> >> scooter in my post, but I think my post had a lot more content then
just
> >> "troll".

> >> JB

by **Stephen Ferguso** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:36:58

This is a troll? Hardly. Let's analyze this. Take a perfectly acceptable
transportation method (the ubiquitous manual scooter of our childhood), slap
in a motor and whiz-bang gyro stabilizers, then sell it for, what was that,
3000 friggin' dollars? It's a ridiculous and thoroughly American approach
to the problem. What's wrong with walking? What's wrong with a bike? Are
millions of Dutch and Chinese daft for getting around town a lot faster,
with more carrying capacity, on a $300 bicycle?

Arggh. His dialysis machine might be nice, but this idea is loopy.

Stephen

> troll

> > Overall it's pretty stupid, can you picture these all over the sidewalks
> > with mini traffic jams?
> > And when you get to your location what do you do with it? Carry it
around?
> > Bet it's great on stairs.

> > > Before I watched the news today I thought this post was just crazy :)
The
> > > thing is supposed to be out in about a year and go for $3000 and will
let
> > > you kill a Yak with mind bullets. No brakes either :) I had to rub
my
> > eyes
> > > when I saw the thing scooting around. It's like something out of a
> > Jetsons
> > > episode http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/ptech/12/03/scooter.unveiling/

> > > Kirk

> > > > Does anybody know if this is available yet?

> > > > Apparently the physics are spot-on, and the courses are very
detailed.
> > > > I'm looking forward to the Central Park Jogging Path and the Mall
Ring.

by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:36:41

I'm sure the thought and the engineering behind the vehicle is commendable,
but it's got to be the silliest marketing concept I've ever seen... why
would anyone in his/her right mind spend $3000 on something motorized that
can easily be outrun by someone on a biclycle?

Then again, lots of people bought those silly scooter things too, eventhough
a conventional step can run rings around 'm.

Jan.
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by **Stephen Ferguso** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:44:25

> A bike lane, or walking path seems ideal.

For bikes and walking...

Stephen

by **Andre Warrin** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:46:49

Hmm.. I wonder if people reacted the same way when the bicycle was
introduced? :)

Andre

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