rec.autos.simulators

I'm a reasoanble driver in F1GP, OK at Indycar (much less practice), but
these cars are _very_ different (heavier, less acceleration and braking,
slower to react and less easy to catch when they slide...) - as are the
ovals. Do you need to use the gears a lot? What sort of revs/powerband
do people use? How much do the brakes get used. Should I brake for a
corner, get the car balanced, and then come on the power at the apex for
an ovals corner like I would on a track, or just ease off the throttle
and run through on a trailing or medium throttle. Or can the cars be set
up for full throttle through a corner?

At the moment, I can't seem to get the hang at all - I'm sliding and
understeering through the entrances and exits of corners, or loosing the
back end as I completely unsettle the balance of the cat when I use the
brakes. And for circuits like Martinsville and Phoenix, I'm needing the
top three gears - though Taledega is obviously flat 4th all the way.
Lots of advice would be appreciated on how to set up and drive these
heavy beasts.

Are there any "fast setups" available - I've nosed around
didnt.doit.wisc.edu and ftp.webcom.com/sabata/ but not found
anything.....have I missed them or are they elsewhere?

Cheers
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: I'm a reasoanble driver in F1GP, OK at Indycar (much less practice), but
: these cars are _very_ different (heavier, less acceleration and braking,
: slower to react and less easy to catch when they slide...) - as are the
: ovals. Do you need to use the gears a lot? What sort of revs/powerband
: do people use? How much do the brakes get used. Should I brake for a
: corner, get the car balanced, and then come on the power at the apex for
: an ovals corner like I would on a track, or just ease off the throttle
: and run through on a trailing or medium throttle. Or can the cars be set
: up for full throttle through a corner?

: At the moment, I can't seem to get the hang at all - I'm sliding and
: understeering through the entrances and exits of corners, or loosing the
: back end as I completely unsettle the balance of the cat when I use the
: brakes. And for circuits like Martinsville and Phoenix, I'm needing the
: top three gears - though Taledega is obviously flat 4th all the way.
: Lots of advice would be appreciated on how to set up and drive these
: heavy beasts.

: Are there any "fast setups" available - I've nosed around
: didnt.doit.wisc.edu and ftp.webcom.com/sabata/ but not found
: anything.....have I missed them or are they elsewhere?

: Cheers
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:  -------+
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:  * RM 1.3 U0414 * One day, Son, this space will be filled by witty taglines.

One suggestion I can make is to reduce your wheel lock down to around 5%
for the tighter ovals and road courses. this will cut down on the
oversteer and keep you from hating life. And spinouts.

        "BOOM!" "CRASH!" "SQUEEL!" And still the pace car drives on undamaged.

The only track you can run flat out, all the way around, is Talladega.
You might have to lift in the dogleg on the front straight because, in the
sim, it's tighter than it is at the real track.  For the medium distance,
high banked ovals (Atlanta, C***te, Darlington, Dover, etc.) don't
charge into the corner.  As Buddy Baker says "sometimes you have to go slow
to go fast."  What this does is keeps the car's handling from getting upset.
 Once you get the car settled in the corner and get it to the apex, you can
usually get on the gas.  If your car is set up right, you'll be flying when
you come out of the corner.  Most of these tracks require very little brake,
if any at all.  And, I would suggest not trying Darlington until you
master Atlanta, Michigan, and some of the others.

Short tracks and flat ovals are completly different.  You'll have to use the
brakes for sure, how much depends on which track.  Martinsville is a brake
track, so is Louden.  Again, don't charge the corners.  Get in easy and
get out fast.  You'll love Bristol.  High banking means very little brake
and fast speeds.

Hope this helps.

Pat
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The best way to get some killer set-ups is to join IWCC or Nasscar
mailing list and 'persuade' some of the drivers to help you.

Richard Scott
#6 #28
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The best way to keep on the track is to drive carefully the first 4
laps, to get the tires hot.

I tell this because a friend of mine is also always crashing because
he is to *** on the throttle the first laps.

After that it is the same story, be fore a corner try to ease of the
throttle rather than to breake, because breaking can make your car
react sudden and difficult to control.

In nascar you have to balance between a fine line of control and
speed.

To go in a corner start high and cut in to the corner so you are low,
and try to stay there. If you go high and stay high your dead meat.

Getting out is, the opposite accelerate and don't hit the wall.

On the straight push push push the throttle down.

If your passing the other drivers watch it, no *** movements or
you'll end up against him or the wall.

I hope i was of any help.

Marc (Fast nascar driver BELGIUM)