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For the life of me I can't run at 640x480 with full detail, 39 cars,
20 ahead, 10 behind. It seems like I'm only getting about 15-20 fps.
I'm using Bristol as my benchmark track and I really notice the stutter
coming out of turn 4, just as the grandstands come into view (but the
rate is bad elsewhere, too). The framerate only improves if I start turning
the graphic options off, especially texturing.

What am I doing wrong?!? I've even set my monitor's refresh to
60Mhz, set a permanent swap file of 200Mb, started Windows
clean, with nothing in the Systray and I can't run full detail, full field.
Am I
just being unrealistic, or I missing something really obvious?

As an aside, I have four 16Mb SMM's here. Should I add it to my
PC? I've heard that it isn't exactly kosher to mix and match SIMM's
and DIMM's. Opinions?

Thanks everyone,

Anthony Guevarra

Don Burnette
Dburn

Hate to ask, but how does one read fps in N1999?

Set an obvious detail (track texture perhaps, or grandstand) to "Auto," then
set "turn details off fps" to , say, 28 and "turn details on fps" to 30.

If when you run the game, the texture goes away, you are not getting a solid
28fps.  Set it to 27 and try again.  When you can do a full lap with max
cars in view without the texture going away, that is the max constant
framerate you can achieve.

It will vary from track to track.

Charlie

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After reading rrevved's reply to you I realized you had a Voodoo2 card.
You may find that you will get better performance with a 4MB 3dfx
card. I believe I was reading in the flightsim NG where the Voodoo2
could actually be slower due to the fact that you don't have enough
CPU pushing it. Might be something to check into.

How many cars are you displaying ahead and behind?
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Dump the Rush and get a Banshee (are they PCI?) if you can,
or a good 2D card and a 4MB 3dfx card.

You may be doing pretty good. I have a P2-450, 128MB of ram
and a 12MB voodoo2 card and don't even run it like that. I have
the details maxed, but I draw 12 ahead and 4 behind.

Expecting too much performance out of your rig.

If you really only have a p5-166, then yes you are obviously being
unrealistic. IMHO :-)

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Alan

Ya except the Glide patch for N2 was apparently designed for
a 3dfx card. You do know about this right? The original Glide
patch for N2 sucked, but the Glide implementation in Nr1999
is done right.

And as for slower: I am getting a fluid framerate (I would estimate
30fps) so I have no need to degrade my graphics and use my
2D card. You might be right if you ran the game on a 486 though.

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I think the problem is that the NR99 code is a little buggy for some
hardware compared to the N2 beta patch.  Per example, I can easily get 25+
fps with everything on (Anti-aliasing at 2 and force High-res_textures) in
N2.

But the same in NR99 will give me some horrible slowdown in Turn4.  I know
it's a bug (this happened on the NROS also), and they don't plan to fix
this.  Oh yeah and the windows enablers have some problems on many system
with bad sound (who fades in/out when you lift the gas).

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I stand by my original comment.  I have a p2 400 with 3dfx and although it
looks pretty and I have all textures on, I can still notice some slight
slowdown at certain points in the game.  Not enough to warrant losing some
textures, but slowdown nonetheless.  Running in the generic mode does not
cause any slowdown, and is far more stable.  I have yet to run two races at
two different tracks in 3dfx mode without the game locking up at some point.
This also doesn't happen in generic mode.  Besides, this guy has a pentium
not a p2, and he has a voodoo rush, both are working against him, although
233 mhz ought to be plenty.  So I seriously suggest that he lose the 3dfx
card.  I would never buy a voodoo rush card as the main graphics board.  I
would get a good 2d-3d board like the matrox g200, I hear it runs 2d as fast
as anything.  Then I would get a voodoo2 add on(or hold out for the
voodoo3). I do appreciate your comments though, that is what this newsgroup
should be used for, to help people.  There is way to much flaming that goes
on here, and not enough information for the uninformed.