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How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

Eva

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Eva » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

          A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can get
the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that track
pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
trouble....thanks!!

--Evan

Gary Godso

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Gary Godso » Mon, 20 May 1996 04:00:00


>           A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
> Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can get
> the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that track
> pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
> trouble....thanks!!

> --Evan

Keep your eyes peeled on this newsgroup.  This question is asked almost
daily.  You should have no problem looking for your answer here.

Gary

Jim PArkhurs

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Jim PArkhurs » Mon, 20 May 1996 04:00:00

 >           A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
 > Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can get
 > the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that track
 > pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
 > trouble....thanks!!
 >
 > --Evan
Bad news is ther is no way to buy the track pack for IMS from pappy.  
They have lost their license to produce the track.  This means that we
must pirate the s/w or look into used salvage shops.  I will pay for the

Kyle Langsto

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Kyle Langsto » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00




> >           A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
> > Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can get
> > the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that track
> > pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
> > trouble....thanks!!

> > --Evan

>> Keep your eyes peeled on this newsgroup.  This question is asked almost
>> daily.  You should have no problem looking for your answer here.

>> Gary
>Bad news is ther is no way to buy the track pack for IMS from pappy.  
>They have lost their license to produce the track.  This means that we
>must pirate the s/w or look into used salvage shops.  I will pay for the


I would imagine that those lucky enough to have held on to their copy of
the Indy track pack are thanking there lucky stars that they're not one
of the unfortunate individuals like you and me that don't have it.  Good
luck on finding someone to sell there copy.  The pirating thing would be
great and would make those that are left out very happy, but also very
broke (fined) and confined (i.e. prison).  Such is life in the world of
software copyrights.
Craig Marc

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Craig Marc » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00


>>Bad news is ther is no way to buy the track pack for IMS from pappy.  
>>They have lost their license to produce the track.  This means that we
>>must pirate the s/w or look into used salvage shops.  I will pay for the

>I would imagine that those lucky enough to have held on to their copy of
>the Indy track pack are thanking there lucky stars that they're not one
>of the unfortunate individuals like you and me that don't have it.

I guess I got lucky..... I ordered it about a week and a half ago from Papy's 1-800
number, and I got in in the mail 3 days later!! Now they don't sell it anymore?
What a shame, thanks to Gerhard's converter, Papy could make a small bundle just
re-issuing the track pack for Indianapolis. By the way...
THANKS GERHARD!!! The track looks GREAT!! I love it!

Craig Marcho

Eldred Picke

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Eldred Picke » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: Re: How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?
>Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 15:41:31 -0500


> >           A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
> > Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can get
> > the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that track
> > pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
> > trouble....thanks!!

> > --Evan

>> Keep your eyes peeled on this newsgroup.  This question is asked almost
>> daily.  You should have no problem looking for your answer here.

>> Gary
>Bad news is ther is no way to buy the track pack for IMS from pappy.  
>They have lost their license to produce the track.  This means that we
>must pirate the s/w or look into used salvage shops.  I will pay for the


What?!?  I've seen messages from Ed or Rick that said you can still order from
Papy...
________

Eldred Pickett

I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?

Robert Huggi

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Robert Huggi » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00


>What?!?  I've seen messages from Ed or Rick that said you can still order from
>Papy...

I will confirm.  I just called the papy phone number and they told me
that they no longer carry it.  Too bad.  Just in time to hurt those of
us that want to learn about the Brickyard 400.
--
Best Wishes!!!
Robert Huggins
Raleigh, NC

Jim Parkhurs

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Jim Parkhurs » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00

I think you would find that the pirate thing applies only to a product
that the company is still selling.  If they would offer it for sale I
would buy it if not I'll get is some other way.. jep

Jim Parkhurs

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Jim Parkhurs » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00

See I told you..  Now if we can get some one to upload this some where
we would be in great shape.

RickGent

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by RickGent » Wed, 22 May 1996 04:00:00



>I think you would find that the pirate thing applies only to a product
>that the company is still selling.

Not true. Just because a book is out of print doesn't mean that its
copyright no longer applies.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Eldred Picke

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Eldred Picke » Wed, 22 May 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: Re: How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?
>Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 17:47:05 GMT

>>What?!?  I've seen messages from Ed or Rick that said you can still order from
>>Papy...
>I will confirm.  I just called the papy phone number and they told me
>that they no longer carry it.  Too bad.  Just in time to hurt those of
>us that want to learn about the Brickyard 400.
>--
>Best Wishes!!!
>Robert Huggins
>Raleigh, NC


Does this mean that it's 'open season' for people who don't have it yet?

________

Eldred Pickett

I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?

John Twitchel

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by John Twitchel » Wed, 22 May 1996 04:00:00




>  >           A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
>  > Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can get
>  > the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that track
>  > pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
>  > trouble....thanks!!

>  > --Evan

> > Keep your eyes peeled on this newsgroup.  This question is asked almost
> > daily.  You should have no problem looking for your answer here.

> > Gary
> Bad news is ther is no way to buy the track pack for IMS from pappy.
> They have lost their license to produce the track.  This means that we
> must pirate the s/w or look into used salvage shops.  I will pay for the


Call Papyrus, Thay still have the IMS track pack in stock.
I hope this helps
John
Jim Parkhurs

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by Jim Parkhurs » Wed, 22 May 1996 04:00:00

 >

 >

 >  >           A while back, I unknowingly sold my Indy trackpack for
 >  > Indycar, so could someone give me some pointers as to how I can et
 >  > the Indianapolis Speedway for Indycar2?  I've looked for that
track
 >  > pack in stores, to no avail.  Any ideas?  Please e-mail if it's no
 >  > trouble....thanks!!
 >  >
 >  > --Evan
 > >
 > > Keep your eyes peeled on this newsgroup.  This question is asked
almost
 > > daily.  You should have no problem looking for your answer here.
 > >
 > > Gary
 > Bad news is ther is no way to buy the track pack for IMS from pappy.
 > They have lost their license to produce the track.  This means that
we
 > must pirate the s/w or look into used salvage shops.  I will pay for
the
 > track from anyone who wants to sell theirs..

 >
 > Call Papyrus, Thay still have the IMS track pack in stock.
 >I hope this helps
 > John

I called again this morning and was told that they ran out of IMS last
week.  There will be no more from PAPPY. Peroid.  

This means the only way to get this track is for someone to share a copy
with the rest of us.  Maybe there is a track called MID USA (hint hint
out there to copy)

David Spark

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by David Spark » Thu, 23 May 1996 04:00:00


>I think you would find that the pirate thing applies only to a product
>that the company is still selling.  If they would offer it for sale I
>would buy it if not I'll get is some other way.. jep

Copyright law doesn't work that way. The copyright is valid regardless of
whether the product is for sale or not. You have to remember that copyright
law didn't start with software, it started with books, music, art, etc. If
I write a song, that gives me the right to determine who performs it and
what, if anything, they pay me in return for it. The same basic principle
applies to software. Last I checked, copyright infringement was punishable
by up to a $10,000 fine and 6 months in jail for EACH infringment, ie. each
copy you make.

When you buy software, you're not really buying the copyrighted work,
you're buying a license which allows you to "perform" the work on your
computer. If you want a legitimate copy of software that's out of print,
you have to get someone else to give up the right to use their copy,
assuming that the license allows that kind of transfer.

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, but I do run an R&D company that licenses
technology on a regular basis and consult with an intellectual property
attorney frequently. If you have any doubts about it, you can probably
contact either the BSA or SPA via their 800 numbers and get the straight
scoop.

Dave "davids" Sparks
Sequoia Motorsports

SLUR

How to get Indianapolis for Indy 2?

by SLUR » Fri, 24 May 1996 04:00:00



    If this is the case couldn't we ask Papy for permission to upload it
somewhere or ask them to. It would only increase the value of their currently
existing games. They won't be losing any thing because they can no longer sell
it. I know that if there was some way to race in the Indy 500 for Indycar 2
then I would buy it, but since I can't then why get it. I'm sure that others
feel the same way, and that Indycar2 and Nascar sales will most likely go up
if we were allowed to download the Indy track.

                                                                 SLURF  


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