I went ahead and played around with the linearity settings again and I come
to the same conclusions. After about 35% It becomes impossible to drive. I
move the wheel about 1/4" and I'm doing donuts.
Perhaps in an F1 type sim it would seem sluggish at 5% but in a fat pig
NASCAR it feels about right to me :-)
And Gerry, isnt Gerry with a G a girls name <vbg>\\ So you can't question
MY manhood :-)
Mitch
> I went ahead and played around with the linearity settings again and I
come
> to the same conclusions. After about 35% It becomes impossible to drive.
I
> move the wheel about 1/4" and I'm doing donuts.
> Perhaps in an F1 type sim it would seem sluggish at 5% but in a fat pig
> NASCAR it feels about right to me :-)
> And Gerry, isnt Gerry with a G a girls name <vbg>\\ So you can't question
> MY manhood :-)
> Mitch
> > The advice on this thread appears to be more conflicting than helpful,
so
> I
> > hope I can straighten this out.
> > The feel of the steering & how you set it up is pretty subjective, so
I'll
> > give a few examples of settings to achieve whatever your preference is:
> > If you find that the steering is too quick, raise the steering ratio in
> the
> > car setup page. Low values (like 9:1 or 8:1 etc) will let you get round
> > hairpins more easily, but will give you very twitchy steering on the
> > straights & fast corners so you'll need small, precise movements.
> > A high ratio (17:1, 18:1 etc) will be more forgiving and easier to
control
> > on the straights, but reduces your overall turning ability making it
> harder
> > to get round hairpins. This is where the steering override can be
useful,
> > but your requirements here will be dependant on the track. Monaco needs
a
> > quicker ratio than Monza, for example.
> > This applies to any controller, even a Joystick (like me!).
> > The linearity slider will affect the way your controller movement
effects
> > the game.
> > More linear will give a quicker reaction to small movements from centre,
> and
> > as you turn the controller more, the car steering will increase at the
> same
> > rate.
> > As a general rule, and it's subjective, this is better for Steering
Wheels
> > than Joysticks.
> > Less linear will make small steering angles less sensitive, so you have
to
> > move your controller more to make the same difference to the car
steering,
> > but as you turn more, the car steering gets quicker, making large
> movements
> > have a much greater effect.
> > When I use a joystick, I tend to go mostly non-linear, with a slow
> steering
> > ratio (and the steering override on). This makes small movements quite
> > vague, but not too sharp (for me) with larger movements.
> > When I use a wheel, I use the exact opposite, more linear and a quick
> (9:1)
> > steering ratio. This makes small movements more precise, but not too
sharp
> > with larger movements.
> > The thing to bear in mind is that if you download a really 'hot' setup,
> > check the steering ratio is okay for your controller. I understand that
> > Greger Huttu used a joystick with his earlier setups, so if you're using
a
> > wheel, change the ratio from, say 17:1 to 12:1.
> > My personal opinion, having used both, is that joysticks are ultimately
> > faster than wheels, but less precise on the straights. A wheel will give
> you
> > a more realistic feel though, and after all, these are sims we're
talking
> > about, so realism counts!
> > Malc.
Now the slider is fully to the left (GPL & N2002) and you all advise me to
slide it fully to the right ?
Do I need to make modifications to my setups ?
Thanx all
Sylvia
It's left now and it stays that way, right <G>?
Modifications to the setup ?
Sylvia
> Now the slider is fully to the left (GPL & N2002) and you all advise me to
> slide it fully to the right ?
> Do I need to make modifications to my setups ?
> Thanx all
> Sylvia
> > Hi all !
> > I used to race GPL with a CH-wheel and CH-pedals. (100 non-linearity in
> GPL
> > & Nascar)
> > Now I have a Momo. A great wheel but the linearity seems wrong...
> > What is the preferred setting here ?
> > Greetz,
> > Sylvia
> It's left now and it stays that way, right <G>?
> Modifications to the setup ?
> Sylvia
> > Do I get this straight, guys ?
> > Now the slider is fully to the left (GPL & N2002) and you all advise me
to
> > slide it fully to the right ?
> > Do I need to make modifications to my setups ?
> > Thanx all
> > Sylvia
> > > Hi all !
> > > I used to race GPL with a CH-wheel and CH-pedals. (100 non-linearity
in
> > GPL
> > > & Nascar)
> > > Now I have a Momo. A great wheel but the linearity seems wrong...
> > > What is the preferred setting here ?
> > > Greetz,
> > > Sylvia
Gerry
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>>All wheels work on the sample principle and typically should be set at or
>>near 100% linearity.
>>If it's twitchy then you may have a weird setup or the steering ratio off.
>>FF has no impact on a linearity setting nor would it being a Momo.
>Mine is too twitchy at 100%, and I don't even *have* FF...
Jason
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> >>All wheels work on the sample principle and typically should be set at
or
> >>near 100% linearity.
> >>If it's twitchy then you may have a weird setup or the steering ratio
off.
> >>FF has no impact on a linearity setting nor would it being a Momo.
> >Mine is too twitchy at 100%, and I don't even *have* FF...
> Real NASCAR drivers don't have force feedback *or* 100% linearity,
> anyway. =)
> Jason
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Real NASCAR racers have considerably more feedback than us sim racers are
ever likely to ;-)
Good point about the steering though. Most real road cars have non-linear
steering too.
Malc.
Jason
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:02:19 -0300, "Schooner"
>> >>All wheels work on the sample principle and typically should be set at
>or
>> >>near 100% linearity.
>> >>If it's twitchy then you may have a weird setup or the steering ratio
>off.
>> >>FF has no impact on a linearity setting nor would it being a Momo.
>> >Mine is too twitchy at 100%, and I don't even *have* FF...
>> Real NASCAR drivers don't have force feedback *or* 100% linearity,
>> anyway. =)
>> Jason
>> -----
>> GPLRank 24.50
>> N2002Rank -12.995
> Jason
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:02:19 -0300, "Schooner"
> >??? What do you mean by that?
> >> >>All wheels work on the sample principle and typically should be set
at
> >or
> >> >>near 100% linearity.
> >> >>If it's twitchy then you may have a weird setup or the steering ratio
> >off.
> >> >>FF has no impact on a linearity setting nor would it being a Momo.
> >> >Mine is too twitchy at 100%, and I don't even *have* FF...
> >> Real NASCAR drivers don't have force feedback *or* 100% linearity,
> >> anyway. =)
> >> Jason
> >> -----
> >> GPLRank 24.50
> >> N2002Rank -12.995
> -----
> GPLRank 24.50
> N2002Rank -12.995
dave henrie
> > Forget that last reply ... <G> Sorry...
> > It's left now and it stays that way, right <G>?
> > Modifications to the setup ?
> > Sylvia
> > > Do I get this straight, guys ?
> > > Now the slider is fully to the left (GPL & N2002) and you all advise
me
> to
> > > slide it fully to the right ?
> > > Do I need to make modifications to my setups ?
> > > Thanx all
> > > Sylvia
> > > > Hi all !
> > > > I used to race GPL with a CH-wheel and CH-pedals. (100 non-linearity
> in
> > > GPL
> > > > & Nascar)
> > > > Now I have a Momo. A great wheel but the linearity seems wrong...
> > > > What is the preferred setting here ?
> > > > Greetz,
> > > > Sylvia
True, but it only gets noticeable at wheel angles much larger than
what is used on a race track (*). I don't know how much 'unlinear'
the GPL steering gets when moving down from 100% linearity, but I
doubt anything much away from 100% is realistic.
_
Mats Lofkvist
(*) E.g. assuming rack and pinion with a long track rod, you
need a wheel angle of over 30 degrees to get a 20% change
in steering ratio.
> True, but it only gets noticeable at wheel angles much larger than
> what is used on a race track (*). I don't know how much 'unlinear'
> the GPL steering gets when moving down from 100% linearity, but I
> doubt anything much away from 100% is realistic.
> (*) E.g. assuming rack and pinion with a long track rod, you
> need a wheel angle of over 30 degrees to get a 20% change
> in steering ratio.
Malc.
