rec.autos.simulators

by **Tim Yuhas** » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

> > > > On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR

> > > > >i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i
> > > > >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is
> > > > >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all
> > > > >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around
> > > > >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for
> > > > >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is
> > > > >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor
> > > > >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else
> > > > >complaining about,just my 2 cents

> > > > I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at
> > > > Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am
> > > > sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar!

> > > sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either,
> > > but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not
> > > just the way it is

> > Ok.....switch VGA off and try it in SVGA, you are in for a real treat,
> > evan if your FR and O suffer. Wake up and stop dreamin.

> > Jammer (UK)

> well i am not in vga as i have said in the past ,i have had it since it
> came out and do pc support for a living, sorry i am getting such great
> perforance out of my system like i said before i really could care less
> who believes me but it just the way it is, i have seen only one post in
> support of me, the rest of you just want to dog me so all i have to say
> is kiss my ass, but i am running in svga with all details on front and
> back and only 115% in the middle of the city and 89% the rest of the way
> around

I guess if you have the frame rate set to the min it could be true,other
than that,it's not a question of whether we think your a liar,we know
you are.
MR>V

by **Shane Lans** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:05 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR

Snipped...)
How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
million bucks....:-)

Shane Lansky

Hobart,Tasmania
Australia

by **MORRIS JONES J** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

> On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:05 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR

> Snipped...)

> >> I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at
> >> Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am
> >> sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar!

> >sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either,
> >but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not
> >just the way it is

> How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
> this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
> out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
> ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
> Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
> million bucks....:-)

> Shane Lansky

> Hobart,Tasmania
> Australia

THANK YOU!
MJ

by **Richard Walk** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR

>i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i
>upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is
>really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all
>the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around
>200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for
>just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is
>100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor
>card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else
>complaining about,just my 2 cents

Congratulations!

BTW - a benchmark that I use when messing about with overclocking is to
go to Monaco with SVGA, all details, 25.6fps & see what the steady state
PO is whilst sitting at the back of the grid. Any chance that you could
post this figure?

Cheers,
Richard

by **Berg** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
>this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
>out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
>ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
>Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
>million bucks....:-)

>Shane Lansky

>Hobart,Tasmania
>Australia

You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that
*** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me
why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I
mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say
is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

by **David Gree** » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00

>On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:05 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR

>Snipped...)

>>> I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at
>>> Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am
>>> sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar!

>>sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either,
>>but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not
>>just the way it is

>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
>this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
>out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
>ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
>Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
>million bucks....:-)

Next time try it with some other cars eg. a race and at 25.6fps

by **Fideli** » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00

> >How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
> >this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
> >out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
> >ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
> >Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
> >million bucks....:-)

> >Shane Lansky

> >Hobart,Tasmania
> >Australia

> You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that
> *** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me
> why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I
> mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say
> is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

Well, it's not surprising even if your system performance doesn't come
close to his since the CPU speed doesn't mean a lot if other components
in your system fall short. There's big differences between those
well-made, well-tweaked PCs and those less optimized PCs.

by **Jo Hels** » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00

Now it comes: how many fps did you select? I guess 15-16 or something. THAT
could be possible.

Personally, I'd like to hear your PO with 21fps selected.

Check it out!

JoH
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by **CarloSa** » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00

>How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of
>these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin
3D
>card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. Oh i'm
>sorry i shouldn't be talking about my fast computer because you could
>crying with envy right now . Your P5 90 mhz just don't cut it eh? Please
>don't call anyone a lier until you know the facts cause well YOU
>DON"T!!!!!!!!!!!

Well we all do no the facts. I have a P200 and GP2 still sucks graphic
wise I even still play monaco in vga to get a decent frame rate with all
on

FORZA FERRARI

by **Peter Gag** » Sun, 01 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Use the pcxdump.zip program that is available to take screen shots in gp2?
(Freely available on all gp2 web sites).

d:~))

**Peter**

by **Shane Lans** » Sun, 01 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>> You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that
>> *** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me
>> why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I
>> mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say
>> is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)
>Well, it's not surprising even if your system performance doesn't come
>close to his since the CPU speed doesn't mean a lot if other components
>in your system fall short. There's big differences between those
>well-made, well-tweaked PCs and those less optimized PCs.

Thats it. You hit the nail on the head. Besides there is a lot of
experts out there that have know idea how to set their machine for
optimum performance..

Shane Lansky

Hobart,Tasmania
Australia

by **Shane Lans** » Sun, 01 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
>>this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
>>out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
>>ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
>>Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
>>million bucks....:-)

>You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that
>*** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me
>why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I
>mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say
>is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

Number one. I am not an Aborigine. Number two I dont think you would
be able to put that *** anywhere..:-) . Ok back to your opinion. You
have made a fair coment there. One of my friends has a setup close to
yours. He has an Abit M/B running a p200 at 83 mhz. Like you he could
not come close to those figures which is as you would agree Bullshit
for such a power machine. I have a p133 which I play in vga all
details on. After a while and some fiddleing I found the secret to
better frames. Use the ESTIMATE. Trust me you try it and you will get
a huge increase. I can play on my p133 now in svga BUT I have to turn
down the detail a bit so know go BUT on a 200/83 know problems and the
mmx 200 at the shop it was even better. All detail on and SVGA. Using
frame estimate. Others might try using what I have said to...

Oh about saying your a pee nut
But you did say the other guy was a liar to his face.
That was uncalled for just as calling you a pee nut was un called
for..:-)
Fair enough..

Shane Lansky

Hobart,Tasmania
Australia

by **Berg** » Sun, 01 Jun 1997 04:00:00

How about checking out some results at
http://volftp.tin.it/GP2/gp2bench.htm, even a 233MMX running at
292Mhz/83 can just barely be under 100%. And that is at MONZA, with
only 19.6fps. I am sorry, but no matter how 'Well Built' your system
is, it is impossible. I would still like to see some Cbench #'s from
this guy, but he seems to have disappeared! I wonder why?

by **Jeff Salzma** » Sun, 01 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>>How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of
>>these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin
>3D
>>card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. Oh i'm
>>sorry i shouldn't be talking about my fast computer because you could
>>crying with envy right now . Your P5 90 mhz just don't cut it eh? Please
>>don't call anyone a lier until you know the facts cause well YOU
>>DON"T!!!!!!!!!!!

>Well we all do no the facts. I have a P200 and GP2 still sucks graphic
>wise I even still play monaco in vga to get a decent frame rate with all
>on

>FORZA FERRARI

I will be going from a P166, 512K burst, Matrox 2MB WRAM, to a
P200MMX, 512K burst, same video. I'll post the results after the
change. I will try and overclock the shit out of the processor, just
for grins.

Figure a week or so.

Forza Schumacher!

Jeff

The other stuff is for preventing spammage. Thanks!

by **marco weijte** » Sun, 01 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>>>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take
>>>this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine
>>>out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg
>>>ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at
>>>Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the
>>>million bucks....:-)

>>You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that
>>*** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me
>>why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I
>>mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say
>>is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

>Number one. I am not an Aborigine. Number two I dont think you would
>be able to put that *** anywhere..:-) . Ok back to your opinion. You
>have made a fair coment there. One of my friends has a setup close to
>yours. He has an Abit M/B running a p200 at 83 mhz. Like you he could
>not come close to those figures which is as you would agree Bullshit
>for such a power machine. I have a p133 which I play in vga all
>details on. After a while and some fiddleing I found the secret to
>better frames. Use the ESTIMATE. Trust me you try it and you will get
>a huge increase. I can play on my p133 now in svga BUT I have to turn
>down the detail a bit so know go BUT on a 200/83 know problems and the
>mmx 200 at the shop it was even better. All detail on and SVGA. Using
>frame estimate. Others might try using what I have said to...
>Oh about saying your a pee nut
>But you did say the other guy was a liar to his face.
>That was uncalled for just as calling you a pee nut was un called
>for..:-)
>Fair enough..
>Shane Lansky

>Hobart,Tasmania
>Australia

I have just bought a AMD K6 200MMX and i have just discovered a new
game -> GP2 in SVGA -> IT IS GREAT !!!!!!!!!
I have 25,6 frames with everyting on !
Ans more than 25,6 frames with no sky and mirrors
The smooth of the game is fantastic, it just fly's in SVGA.
I have 32 EDO RAM and a great Matrox Mystique 4MB videocard.

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