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OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

John Pancoas

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by John Pancoas » Thu, 02 May 2002 23:10:51

  Jeff Burton, 1997 Southern 500, quote "I tried to put him in the wall"
unquote.

  "him" being Jeff Gordon.

1987 Old Dominion 500........LaBonte tried to wreck Dale........screwed up,
and lost the race to Waltrip, lol !

1979 Daytona 500........Allison/Yarborough, last lap.......

etc., etc., etc., etc.,...................

-John


> Forgot to add.

> Pocono - Earnhardt, Mayfield moved Dale on the last corner and went on to
> win the race.  Earnhardt finished 4th.



> > moving or bump and run is a lot different than wrecking.  Moving or Bump
> and
> > run is/was NASCAR.

> > Rockingham - Bobby Hamilton, Earnhardt moved him with bump and run and
> went
> > on to win the race.  Bobby didn't wreck and finished 2nd I believe.

> > Loudon BGN - Nemechek, Earnhardt moved him, but got him a little more
out
> of
> > shape than he intended.  Earnhardt slowed down, waited for Joe to get
> > control of the car, let Joe get back in the lead before racing to the
> line.
> > Joe won.

> > Bristol - Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon moved him, and went on to win the
> race,
> > Rusty was 2nd I believe.



> > > Yes, he had their respect all right but it was not just for his
driving,
> > it
> > > was for the kind of man he was as well. He was a very nice man based
on
> > what
> > > I've heard, it's a shame I didnt know that until he was gone. They
knew
> > > whenever he was on their bumper with 2 to go that they were going to
be
> > > wrecked. You can't even name one race when the above scenario was true
> > that
> > > he didn't wreck the other driver. If he could get to them, he would
> wreck
> > > them. Just ask Terry Labonte. So, if there was someone online like
that,
> > how
> > > would that person be treated though?



> > > > I think that decribing Earnhardt as what we classify a "wrecker" to
be
> > is
> > > > downright insulting.  Earnhardt drove like anyone would on a
Saturday
> > > night
> > > > at a local dirt track.  I think if you thought it about a little
> longer,
> > > you
> > > > might realize that yes, Earnhardt got into/caused a lot of
accidents,
> > but
> > > he
> > > > was just an aggressive driver and accidents happen when you're
> > aggressive.
> > > > If all he did was crash people out to win races, he would not have
won
> > the
> > > > respect of the fans or of his fellow racers.  7 championships speak
> for
> > > > themselves......

> > > > Ryan



> > > > > I am sad for his family that he is gone, but he was not what stock
> car
> > > > > racing was all about. Many others have come and gone as well as
> Dale.
> > I
> > > > > never watched a NASCAR race to see Dale Earnhardt. If he couldnt
win
> > by
> > > a
> > > > > fair pass, he would move you out of the way. Any "sim" racer that
> > drove
> > > > like
> > > > > that would had been muzzled and that's what is so funny about a
lot
> of
> > > sim
> > > > > racers that I see: all the time bashing people for wrecking people
> > > online
> > > > in
> > > > > a game and then they would pull for someone in real life who made
a
> > > living
> > > > > doing it. Sorry, but that is true.

> > > > > Regards, Phillip



> > > > > >   In a nutshell Goy, he was what stock car racing is all about,
> > unlike
> > > > the
> > > > > > pretty boy/corporate version of today :)
> > > > > >   Dale could do both sides of the fence.  Guys today
> can't/haven't.

> > > > > > -John




> > > > > > > >   Isn't the same, never will be, without The Man.

> > > > > > > Nope

> > > > > > > I'm not a NASCAR fan by any definition of the word, the few
> times
> > I
> > > > > > > watched the reruns on Eurosport or checked the results on the
> web
> > > was
> > > > to
> > > > > > > see how Dale was doing

> > > > > > > He was something else

> > > > > > > Beers and cheers
> > > > > > > (uncle) Goy

> > > > > > > "The Pits" http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > > > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> > > > > > > --Groucho Marx--

John Pancoas

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by John Pancoas » Thu, 02 May 2002 23:11:12

  Amen.........

-John



> > moving or bump and run is a lot different than wrecking.  Moving or Bump
and
> > run is/was NASCAR.

> > Rockingham - Bobby Hamilton, Earnhardt moved him with bump and run and
went
> > on to win the race.  Bobby didn't wreck and finished 2nd I believe.

> > Loudon BGN - Nemechek, Earnhardt moved him, but got him a little more
out of
> > shape than he intended.  Earnhardt slowed down, waited for Joe to get
> > control of the car, let Joe get back in the lead before racing to the
line.
> > Joe won.

> > Bristol - Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon moved him, and went on to win the
race,
> > Rusty was 2nd I believe.

> Yep, it's part of the strategies/tactics that *are* NASCAR.  It's not
> freakin' F1.  And hope it never gets there.

> --

> Fester

> Hey nobody's perfect, not even myself 8)
>      -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>  4/15/02

Eldre

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by Eldre » Fri, 03 May 2002 04:51:43



>How about Dale JarrettvsDavey Allison, Rick WilsonvsBill Elliott, Jimmy
>SpencervsErnie Irvan. I am dropping it since no one came name a race other
>than Daytona, where people dont like to rub anyway at those speeds.
>Actually, I know another but the fact no one else does is amazing and proves
>my point.

No it doesn't.  Most people don't remember who came in second at a given race
unless it was something spectacular.  Like Al Unser Jr beating Scott Goodyear
at Indy(smallest margin of victory up to then).  In order to answer your
question, one would first have to find a race where Dale came in second.  Then
you'd have to find the details on that particular race, if they're even
AVAILABLE...
In order to answer your question to your apparent satisfaction, one would have
to have a detailed NASCAR reference handy.  I don't know many people who DO...

Eldred
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Phillip Malphrus J

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by Phillip Malphrus J » Fri, 03 May 2002 05:50:11

oh yeah, I'm a troll for posting an opinion contrary to popular opinion and
I should be beaten because my opinion is different ... Nothing I've said is
a personal attack to anyone on here but I should be beaten. This is called
free speech. We are not in communist Russia ... I'm sorry it has come to a
personal insult.

Dale Earnhardt was a wonderful man who will forever be the benchmark on
which to compare stock car drivers to.

Now everyone can be happy!


To me, he's a troll who don't need a reply.  He needs taken out back
behind the woodshed & busted upside his...  :-)

Phillip Malphrus J

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by Phillip Malphrus J » Fri, 03 May 2002 05:53:18

lol, whatever. I'm a troll for having a different opinion than yours and my
post is a trollish one while yours is not.

Thanks for your time.


> I have not intention of continuing this discussion.  You seem to be here
to
> troll so let's leave it that we differ in our views.



> > John, I have no problem with you, was responding to someone else named
> > Schooner  ...



> > >   Hey Phillip, you made your point on my thread; I made mine; you
don't
> > like
> > > him, I do, etc.  What say we drop it, eh ?  Pretty petty in the first
> > place.

> > > -John


message

> > > > Just name a race ...



> > > > > "You can't even name one race when the above scenario was true
that
> > > > > he didn't wreck the other driver. If he could get to them, he
would
> > > wreck
> > > > > them."

> > > > > Please cut out the BS and stop disrespecting DE, that statement is
> not
> > > > > anywhere near true.  Sure some people got spun by him but others
> have
> > > done
> > > > > it as well and he never did it every race as you claim.



> > > > > > Yes, he had their respect all right but it was not just for his
> > > driving,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > was for the kind of man he was as well. He was a very nice man
> based
> > > on
> > > > > what
> > > > > > I've heard, it's a shame I didnt know that until he was gone.
They
> > > knew
> > > > > > whenever he was on their bumper with 2 to go that they were
going
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > wrecked. You can't even name one race when the above scenario
was
> > true
> > > > > that
> > > > > > he didn't wreck the other driver. If he could get to them, he
> would
> > > > wreck
> > > > > > them. Just ask Terry Labonte. So, if there was someone online
like
> > > that,
> > > > > how
> > > > > > would that person be treated though?



> > > > > > > I think that decribing Earnhardt as what we classify a
"wrecker"
> > to
> > > be
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > downright insulting.  Earnhardt drove like anyone would on a
> > > Saturday
> > > > > > night
> > > > > > > at a local dirt track.  I think if you thought it about a
little
> > > > longer,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > might realize that yes, Earnhardt got into/caused a lot of
> > > accidents,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > was just an aggressive driver and accidents happen when you're
> > > > > aggressive.
> > > > > > > If all he did was crash people out to win races, he would not
> have
> > > won
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > respect of the fans or of his fellow racers.  7 championships
> > speak
> > > > for
> > > > > > > themselves......

> > > > > > > Ryan


> message

> > > > > > > > I am sad for his family that he is gone, but he was not what
> > stock
> > > > car
> > > > > > > > racing was all about. Many others have come and gone as well
> as
> > > > Dale.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > never watched a NASCAR race to see Dale Earnhardt. If he
> couldnt
> > > win
> > > > > by
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > fair pass, he would move you out of the way. Any "sim" racer
> > that
> > > > > drove
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > that would had been muzzled and that's what is so funny
about
> a
> > > lot
> > > > of
> > > > > > sim
> > > > > > > > racers that I see: all the time bashing people for wrecking
> > people
> > > > > > online
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > a game and then they would pull for someone in real life who
> > made
> > > a
> > > > > > living
> > > > > > > > doing it. Sorry, but that is true.

> > > > > > > > Regards, Phillip



> > > > > > > > >   In a nutshell Goy, he was what stock car racing is all
> > about,
> > > > > unlike
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > pretty boy/corporate version of today :)
> > > > > > > > >   Dale could do both sides of the fence.  Guys today
> > > > can't/haven't.

> > > > > > > > > -John




> > > > > > > > > > >   Isn't the same, never will be, without The Man.

> > > > > > > > > > Nope

> > > > > > > > > > I'm not a NASCAR fan by any definition of the word, the
> few
> > > > times
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > watched the reruns on Eurosport or checked the results
on
> > the
> > > > web
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > see how Dale was doing

> > > > > > > > > > He was something else

> > > > > > > > > > Beers and cheers
> > > > > > > > > > (uncle) Goy

> > > > > > > > > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> > > > > > > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> > > > > > > > > > --Groucho Marx--

John Pancoas

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by John Pancoas » Fri, 03 May 2002 08:12:49

  Fwiw, Phillip's been around sim racing for awhile.  Obviously don't agree
with him on this topic, but a troll he is not.

-John



> oh yeah, I'm a troll for posting an opinion contrary to popular opinion
and
> I should be beaten because my opinion is different ... Nothing I've said
is
> a personal attack to anyone on here but I should be beaten. This is called
> free speech. We are not in communist Russia ... I'm sorry it has come to a
> personal insult.

> Dale Earnhardt was a wonderful man who will forever be the benchmark on
> which to compare stock car drivers to.

> Now everyone can be happy!



> To me, he's a troll who don't need a reply.  He needs taken out back
> behind the woodshed & busted upside his...  :-)

Uncle Feste

OT- Dale Earnhardt's Birthday today, April 29th..........

by Uncle Feste » Fri, 03 May 2002 12:05:48


> oh yeah, I'm a troll for posting an opinion contrary to popular opinion and
> I should be beaten because my opinion is different ... Nothing I've said is
> a personal attack to anyone on here but I should be beaten. This is called
> free speech. We are not in communist Russia ... I'm sorry it has come to a
> personal insult.

> Dale Earnhardt was a wonderful man who will forever be the benchmark on
> which to compare stock car drivers to.

> Now everyone can be happy!



> To me, he's a troll who don't need a reply.  He needs taken out back
> behind the woodshed & busted upside his...  :-)

Joke son.  See the smiley??  Don't whine.  I doesn't become you.  I see
your post as a troll simply because your claims were *so* outrageous &
out of the ballpark and was presented in such a way that it comes off
like that.

--

Fester

Hey nobody's perfect, not even myself 8)
     -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>  4/15/02


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