>> Dave,
>Why would anybody want to watch pro wrestling with NASCAR around? :-)
Eldred
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| from watching to much pro wrestling ;)
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| Dave,
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"DB" > You *** guys must lead some damn complicated lives, Maybe its
Ok, consider this: The restrictor plates used at Talledega and Daytona
are furnished, inspected and controlled by Nascar.
Now some background.
Roger Penske was/is the most sucessful car owner in Indy 500 history.
In1994 he took advantage of a rules loophole and raced his cars with 'stock'
block Ilmor engines...that had more torque, horsepower and speed than the
other engines designed for Indy. So in 1994 he makes a fool of the Track
owner, one Tony George. Skip ahead to 1995. Penske has not one but TWO
defending race champions in his stable, yet neither can get up to speed.
For 1995 the rules loophole had been closed and Penske used the same
turbocharged engines as everyone else. The way power is controlled on these
turbos is by using a waste gate valve that is designed to blow open(thereby
killing the turbo pressure and ruining the power output) at a certain
precise level. OF course, just like the restrictor plates, the Pop-off
valves are entirely controlled, managed and restricted by the track
officials. So here is the MIGHTY Penske team unable to qualify, unable to
get anywhere near the needed speed even with all the downforce dialed
out....the popoff valves continually blew at seeminly far slower speeds than
other teams. Even when
Penske borrowed engines and chassis from other teams, his engines still
popped...So one Mr Tony George got his revenge on Penske for 1994 by keeping
him out of 1995.
Back to Daytona....who controlls the Restrictor plates that regulate the
top speeds? Who stood to gain the most by having Jr. win? Who would have
cared if Tony Stewart or Spencer or most of the other drivers had won the
race?
I cannot prove anything underhanded happened...but as we like to
say..'Where there is smoke, there you'll find Cheech and Chon.....er I
mean, Where there is smoke, you'll usually find fire.'
dave henrie
The announcers mentioned that he said that on his in-car radio. Unless he
was trying to *** with his crew, I doubt that was his strategy. And why is
there no in-car telemetry any more? It seems like it comes and goes every
year.
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Gary
Dunno about the telementry.. But I would like to see it again though..
-Jacob
> > come on Phillip.. you know the 3/4 was bullshit.. its called "***ing
with
> > the other drivers"...
> > Its no different when I'm running good at a race track and someone ask
me
> > how I do it.. well I'll fill them full of shit like.. "well, I'm using
> very
> > little brake and only squeezing the throttle 3/4.." Even though in
> reality
> > I'm driving the***out of the car.. Its just to *** with them.. and
it
> > in turn causes your competitors to work too hard and usually make
drastic
> > changes that don't work...
> > Of course there is only one person who knows how much throttle they were
> > using.......
> > -Jacob
> > Just my 2 cents.
> The announcers mentioned that he said that on his in-car radio. Unless he
> was trying to *** with his crew, I doubt that was his strategy. And why
is
> there no in-car telemetry any more? It seems like it comes and goes every
> year.
> --
> Gary
I hadn't heard the '95 pop-off angle to that. The story that I've
always heard was that a *lot* of Penske's R&D and testing went into
that motor that year. The motor was so good, you didn't need for the
car to handle, just stand on it down the straights. When the next
year rolled around, the Penske chassis's were two years behind the
curve on the speedway-handling side of things and couldn't find the
speed for that reason. By the time they tried Rahal's chassis's, it
was too little, too late.
Of course, your story could *prove* that Tony G. *is* Satan... :)
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled ***... ;)
Don't you think they know that?
I have heard drivers call fake pit stops in order to***up other teams
> > come on Phillip.. you know the 3/4 was bullshit.. its called "***ing
with
> > the other drivers"...
> > Its no different when I'm running good at a race track and someone ask
me
> > how I do it.. well I'll fill them full of shit like.. "well, I'm using
> very
> > little brake and only squeezing the throttle 3/4.." Even though in
> reality
> > I'm driving the***out of the car.. Its just to *** with them.. and
it
> > in turn causes your competitors to work too hard and usually make
drastic
> > changes that don't work...
> > Of course there is only one person who knows how much throttle they were
> > using.......
> > -Jacob
> > Just my 2 cents.
> The announcers mentioned that he said that on his in-car radio. Unless he
> was trying to *** with his crew, I doubt that was his strategy. And why
is
> there no in-car telemetry any more? It seems like it comes and goes every
> year.
> --
> Gary
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> > come on Phillip.. you know the 3/4 was bullshit.. its called "***ing
with
> > the other drivers"...
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Philip D'Amato
<snip>
I had tears when Jr. won the race. However, a part of me couldnt help but
wonder if there was some sort of fix or setup for him to win. I know its
rather ludicrous but now improbable. Anyway, I loved seeing him win. It was
AWESOME.
"Jeg gikk en tur i skogen og f?lte fredens ro... da kom en liten gj?k og
sang s? fint ko-ko."
Fint - ikke sant?
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> "Jeg gikk en tur i skogen og f?lte fredens ro... da kom en liten gj?k og
> sang s? fint ko-ko."
> Fint - ikke sant?
Mikkel
