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GPL demo question

Morgan V. Woote

GPL demo question

by Morgan V. Woote » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 05:03:28

Yeah, you're missing something buddy. ARCADE?! Killfiled! :)

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Greg Campbel

GPL demo question

by Greg Campbel » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 05:30:53



> Did somebody say if you buy the game that it looks better than those 640x480 graphics?

"Just a bit"  :)

Fresh out of the box, GPL looks just like the demo.  After installing
all the user produced updates, it looks like a whole new game.

Have a look at the graphics on these sites.

http://jfcarsets.racesim.net/
http://www.bengpl.racesim.net/alskies.html
http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/time4dx/toploadersgplfunfactory/id16...

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meettonysopra

GPL demo question

by meettonysopra » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 07:52:45

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:03:28 -0600, "Morgan V. Wooten"


>Yeah, you're missing something buddy. ARCADE?! Killfiled! :)

stupid***.
meettonysopra

GPL demo question

by meettonysopra » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 07:56:53

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:30:53 -0800, Greg Campbell




>> Did somebody say if you buy the game that it looks better than those 640x480 graphics?

>"Just a bit"  :)

>Fresh out of the box, GPL looks just like the demo.  After installing
>all the user produced updates, it looks like a whole new game.

>Have a look at the graphics on these sites.

Couldn't get to 2 of 3 of those sites, but the images I did find were
awesome.  Thanks.
Steve Blankenshi

GPL demo question

by Steve Blankenshi » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:30:13

M.T.S. -

Pardon some folks -they're a sensitive lot.  ;-)

But you don't seem to have gotten much in the way of answers to your query, so I'll take a shot.  Pardon if I repeat anything you've
seen.

Speed Racer Syndrome - The GPL had a problem with fast CPU's; normally it runs in real time - all the time; replays, too.  There's a
fast-cpu patch that fixes this, but I don't believe it applies to the demo  (may be wrong on that)

Graphics - you say 640X480?  I'm guessing you're in software mode?  There are opengl and d3d patches for the final game as the
original only supported the now-defunct 3dfx and Rendition cards, but I have no idea if they work with the demo.  With the right
graphics patch, vid-card, and cpu, you can run gpl at insane resolutions and it's gorgeous (as you've seen from the add-ons pages).

Physics - the demo has slightly different physics.  Papy tweaked the tire model in version 1.1, changing the tires' behavior under
sliding conditions, which is er, often, in gpl.  Not a huge change, but noticeable, and easier to drive, IMO.

So, the demo WAS the same, but NOW it's not - by a longshot.  The full game's well worth hunting down if you like to drive and race,
and are willing to practice, practice, practice... ;-)

Hope that's of use,

SB


> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:03:28 -0600, "Morgan V. Wooten"

> >Yeah, you're missing something buddy. ARCADE?! Killfiled! :)

> stupid***.

Biz

GPL demo question

by Biz » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:04:10

Not sure which one, but one or several of the posters explained that the
demo is intended for 1.4Ghz and slower CPU's.  The game has a fast CPU patch
to fix that problem, but I don't beleive it will work with the demo.

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> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:41:52 GMT, "Stephen Smith"

> >If you think GPL is too arcade-y, let's see if you're any good online....

> I'm not sure I made it clear in my last post:  the reason it was so
> arcadish is because according to the game's physics engine I was going
> 40 mph through the esses (though to me I was doing over 200 mph).  So
> it looks like I'm going insanely fast but the car (only doing 40 mph)
> is handling like a Tie Fighter.

> (Making turns was more about timing the turn than driving; the point
> at which I became suspicious was when I took at 90 degree right turn a
> beat early and turned head on into the right wall at 180 mph without
> even smoking the tires.)

> On the straightaways I must have been hitting 700 mph.  I do remember
> thinking, "Gee, Watkins Glen seems a lot *shorter* than in NASCAR 4".
> LOL.

meettonysopra

GPL demo question

by meettonysopra » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:04:32

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:30:13 GMT, "Steve Blankenship"


>M.T.S. -

>Pardon some folks -they're a sensitive lot.  ;-)

>But you don't seem to have gotten much in the way of answers to your query, so I'll take a shot.  Pardon if I repeat anything you've
>seen.

>Speed Racer Syndrome - The GPL had a problem with fast CPU's; normally it runs in real time - all the time; replays, too.  There's a
>fast-cpu patch that fixes this, but I don't believe it applies to the demo  (may be wrong on that)

>Graphics - you say 640X480?  I'm guessing you're in software mode?  There are opengl and d3d patches for the final game as the
>original only supported the now-defunct 3dfx and Rendition cards, but I have no idea if they work with the demo.  With the right
>graphics patch, vid-card, and cpu, you can run gpl at insane resolutions and it's gorgeous (as you've seen from the add-ons pages).

>Physics - the demo has slightly different physics.  Papy tweaked the tire model in version 1.1, changing the tires' behavior under
>sliding conditions, which is er, often, in gpl.  Not a huge change, but noticeable, and easier to drive, IMO.

>So, the demo WAS the same, but NOW it's not - by a longshot.  The full game's well worth hunting down if you like to drive and race,
>and are willing to practice, practice, practice... ;-)

>Hope that's of use,

>SB

Thanks, that is a good summation of the facts; I think I figured most
of that out by now but its good to get it all there in plain English.

I will certainly pick the game up and apply all applicable patches if
I can ever find a copy.  I don't think I will mess with the demo any
further though.  (Don't wanna spend a bunch of time trying to patch
something that only lets me run hot laps at the Glen).

Rafe McAulif

GPL demo question

by Rafe McAulif » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:16:16

LOL, it was originally intended for P166s and the like :)

Don't think they would've even imagined 1.4ghz CPUs.

Rafe Mc



Rafe McAulif

GPL demo question

by Rafe McAulif » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:21:34

Good call, GPL is STILL the only truly realistic open wheel sim
available IMHO. 3 years on even, shows you how advanced it was for its
time.

I saw it available on www.amazon.com for $5 US, can't argue with that
:)

Rafe Mc

Dave Henri

GPL demo question

by Dave Henri » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 23:30:23

"Rafe McAuliffe" >
   We may have to start modifying our statements...first impressions of the
patch on F1 2001 are very impressive.  Several posters have mentioned the FF
is better than GPL's and since we know where good FF comes from(good
physics, not pre-programed rumble effects) perhaps Ff1 2001 has risen to
GPL's level.
dave henrie

Eldre

GPL demo question

by Eldre » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 02:37:43



>LOL, it was originally intended for P166s and the like :)

>Don't think they would've even imagined 1.4ghz CPUs.

Well, it ran like SHIT on P166's...

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Eldre

GPL demo question

by Eldre » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 02:37:43



>On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:03:28 -0600, "Morgan V. Wooten"

>>Yeah, you're missing something buddy. ARCADE?! Killfiled! :)

>stupid***.

Um, I *think* he was just joking with you...

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Eldre

GPL demo question

by Eldre » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 02:37:43





>> Did somebody say if you buy the game that it looks better than those
>640x480 graphics?

>"Just a bit"  :)

>Fresh out of the box, GPL looks just like the demo.  After installing
>all the user produced updates, it looks like a whole new game.

I'm still running original graphics and sounds...<g>

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Rafe McAulif

GPL demo question

by Rafe McAulif » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:27:41




>>LOL, it was originally intended for P166s and the like :)

>>Don't think they would've even imagined 1.4ghz CPUs.

>Well, it ran like SHIT on P166's...

>Eldred

hehe, didn't everything???

Rafe Mc

Dave Henri

GPL demo question

by Dave Henri » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 01:28:11

"Rafe McAuliffe"
  I remember back in the Nascar 1 or 2 days...when the Pentium 133's first
came out.  I sent an email to Papyrus and asked if the new chips could
finally run the sim fast enough to enable full fields with full detail...
   I believe I called them 'MONSTER' chips<<compared to P100's they were>>
  the quick answer was ....NO!
dave henrie


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