1. The Rules as applied by the SIM.
2. Respect for your fellow drivers.
> <snip>
> > > Nobody wants to be the cop, 'cept maybe JS, & I wouldn't
> want to give him the
> > > satisfaction, even tho he is probably the best candidate for
> the job... j/k
> > > John ;o)
> > I don't WANT to do it, but since I've had experience doing it
> in three
> > other leagues, and since nobody else wanted to step up (I
> figure waiting
> > four months is more than long enough), I took on the job.
> John, in re-reading what I posted, I realized that I didn't make
> myself very clear. The j/k & grin were meant to apply to the
> "not give him the satisfaction" part. I *meant* the part about
> "best candidate for the job", & indeed support that idea (if you
> really want to open that potential can o' worms).
> Haven't given it a lot of thought, but it strikes me (going by
> the last time you tried to critique the race) that you may
> consider *not* critiquing yourself ('cept maybe an "I screwed up
> on lap xx, waddaya think?" kinda thing), otherwise you leave
> yourself open to criticisms (valid or not) that you are easier
> on yourself than on others. Just the possibility of a "conflict
> of interest" is enough for some to assume that there is one (ask
> some folks on Wall Street). Setting it up so that it is
> *understood* that you will avoid any criticisms of your own
> driving, & leaving that up to others *may* be workable. Anybody
> else have input?
> > > In a group representing different countries, cultures,
> backgrounds, etc (which
> > > is the *main* reason I like RASCAR), you will always get
> differing reactions &
> > > solutions to problems, even as to whether a problem really
> exists.
> > This is a crock - international differences and varying
> cultures should
> > be left in the garage area (or paddock for you euro guys). In
> IGPS, we
> > had guys from half a dozen countries, and the only real
> problem we had
> > was with an Italian guy who thought the rules applied to
> everyone but
> > him. He was eventually ejected from the league.
> Gotta disagree w/ you on this one. International differences
> are an issue, 'cause some of our friends across the pond(s) are
> relatively unaccustomed to Nascar's idiosyncricies(sp?), or
> racing side by side for laps on end on a "boring" oval track, or
> accepted pace etiquette, etc. This *is* a learning experience
> for some, & has improved a great deal over the course of a few
> months.
> >The real problem is that anyone can join our races, and not
> everybody
> > has evidently read the current guidelines.
> > > Some want a more controlled, more disciplined environment;
> others want a free
> > > for all, "run what ya brung" experience. Me? I'm
> somewhere in between.
> > I would be happy if we didn't need additional "rules", but
> people seem
> > to forget the fact that they're racing online on a network
> that is
> > highly unreliable and varies in quality from one minute to the
> next, and
> > and they do really stupid shit on a seemingly never-ending
> basis.
> > > Respect for each other, & a little give & take will do
> wonders, as has been
> > > apparent over the last few races. The Golden Rule seems to
> apply here rather
> > > well.
> > Respect for the racing environment is more important. If we
> can't
> > create value in our races by having clean races, we can't
> convince
> > people to drive with their heads place somewhere other than
> their asses
> > in order to retain their priviledge of racing with us.
> > PRACTICE:
> > Since we're running with fixed setups, it shouldn't be tough
> at all to
> > show up with a fairly intimate knowledge of how the car works
> under
> > various conditions. I race several races offline against the
> AI so that
> > I can see what I have to do to pass on the inside, pass on the
> outside,
> > as well as be passed on the inside or outside. I know how the
> car acts
> > on new tires, and I know how the car acts on old tires.
> > It's not that freakin hard to spend time to learn the setup
> and find out
> > how to drive at a particular track, but I think that's one of
> our
> > biggest problems.
> > RESTARTS:
> >*** back, jump starting, chatting, picking your nose - it
> all
> > contributes to a BAD restart. It seems there's a certain
> number of
> > people that simply cannot drive at the pace speed for any
> longer than
> > maybe a second. The further back in the pack you get, the
> worse the yo-
> > yo effect is. You speed up, and then brake suddenly and slow
> down -
> > because the guy in front of you did.
> > ---------------
> > My whole point is that if we want the clean racing we're all
> after, we
> > need to establish some rules for participation. We don't need
> to
> > establish new and exciting rules for when it's okay to pass, -
> we need
> > to establish rules that we can cite when we warn a driver that
> further
> > misconduct will result in a temporary suspension (or permanent
> > expulsion) from racing with RASCAR.
> > Rules should establish fair play, not artificial passing
> rules.
> I'm inclined to agree with the rest of your post. Ya got my
> vote. ;o)
> Brian
